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Another Boeing Plane Plunges Mid-Flight, Comes Just 400ft of Pacific Ocean
The Daily Fetched ^ | 15 June 2024 | Jason Walsh

Posted on 06/15/2024 10:49:39 AM PDT by Sam77

A Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft suffered a mid-air emergency on Friday after it plunged 16,000 feet, coming just 400 feet of the Pacific Ocean off the coast of the Hawaiian island of Kauai due to adverse weather conditions.

According to a Southwest Airlines memo to pilots, Southwest Flight 2786 from Honolulu International Airport to Lihue Airport in Kauai dropped from nearly 16,000 feet to an altitude of 409 feet.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: aircraft; airlines; boeing; boeing737; boeing737max8; southwest; southwestairlines
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To: Sam77

A quick read of the link seemed to indicate that perhaps there might have been some pilot error involved. Don’t know, but I’m far past trying to get useful info on articles written about anything to do with science and technology written by mere journalists.


41 posted on 06/15/2024 11:42:18 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Tom Tetroxide
Well, it's not so much the 8500 fpm climb in and of itself, it's the transition from the 10,000+ fpm dive from 16,000 ft to a pull out a 400ft agl followed by an immediate 8500 fpm climb that I find a rather impressive maneuver.
42 posted on 06/15/2024 11:44:41 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: Yogafist

Hope the nearly dying customers take comfort in that they are aiding DEI. Stupid people need jobs to.


43 posted on 06/15/2024 11:46:25 AM PDT by Colt1851Navy (What was wrong with Nixon?)
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To: Night Hides Not
Lots of prayers were being said I imagine. That is a long fall, and the distance of recovery was extremely close to not being successful. Skin of the teeth comparison comes to mind.

I jumped off a 100 foot high cliff at an old abandoned rock quarry. We sat around for quite a few minutes before I said, ah to heck with it. Stood up ran for the edge and screamed Geronimo as I leaped off the edge.

As I had cleared the edge is when I noticed a large rock directly below where I was headed for. I had my arms out to the sides of me making circling motions to keep myself upright, because landing anyway other than feet first was not an option.

I hit the water and braced myself for impact with that rock I had seen. Well, that rock quarry had the clearest water I had ever seen in my life. I finally came to a stop and was relieved to have not hit that rock. Yet was wondering how that could have even been possible, but nonetheless extremely thankful. I estimated that I had probably gone about 10 feet below the surface. So, I casually began swimming to the surface, but seemed to be making it no closer to the surface. Panic began to set in and I started a more rapid ascent. When I finally hit the surface I estimated that I had gone about 30 to 35 feet below the surface, not 10 feet.

Let's just say that was my only jump from that height. I had survived it once. I wasn't about to push it again. 🤣

But it was exhilarating.

Seeing me alive the other three made the jump also, after receiving my tips of how to do it successfully. We all went home in one piece thankfully.

44 posted on 06/15/2024 11:47:46 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Paal Gulli
Cockpit video of the First Officer at work...


45 posted on 06/15/2024 11:48:05 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: Sam77
The less-experienced first officer “inadvertently” pushed forward on the control column before cutting the speed, causing the airplane to descend rapidly.

“Journalist” gibberish that tells us nothing from an actual aviation standpoint. That sentence doesn’t make any sense without a lot more context.

46 posted on 06/15/2024 11:50:14 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Sam77

Bet that was a thrilling ride!


47 posted on 06/15/2024 11:50:17 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Sam77

So now Boing is guilty of the weather?

Take a look at Flight 24/7. The sky is full of Boing jets, so the companies that buy their jets are forced to hire unqualified people and when things go wrong it’s an all out attack on Boing.

Kind of reminds me of the anti-gun journalists.


48 posted on 06/15/2024 11:52:50 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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To: Tom Tetroxide
What you're talking about is the ability to log PIC time even though the air carrier designates you the SIC. You know that.

Logging pilot in command time part 121:

According to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regulations, a pilot in command (PIC) in a Part 121 operation can log PIC time only if they are the sole manipulator of the controls for the flight and are responsible for the safety of the flight. This is stated in 14 CFR § 61.51(e).

In a Part 121 operation, the PIC is typically the captain or the pilot flying, while the second-in-command (SIC) is the first officer or the pilot monitoring. The SIC can log SIC time, but not PIC time, unless they are the sole manipulator of the controls for the flight and are responsible for the safety of the flight.

In the scenario where a SIC is the sole manipulator of the controls for a portion of the flight, they can log PIC time for that portion of the flight, as long as they meet the requirements of 14 CFR § 61.51(e). This is supported by the FAA’s legal interpretation in the 1999-Carpenter case, which states that a SIC can log PIC time if they are the sole manipulator of the controls for the flight.

However, it’s important to note that the generally accepted rule within Part 121 operations is that a designated SIC never logs PIC time, whether they are a first officer or a captain. This is because the SIC is not considered the PIC, and their role is to assist the PIC in the safe operation of the flight.

In summary, a SIC in a Part 121 operation can log PIC time only if they are the sole manipulator of the controls for the flight and are responsible for the safety of the flight, as stated in 14 CFR § 61.51(e).

It's gone both ways before and many people have never logged sole manipulator time as PIC when in fact they were the SIC, but PF at the time. Others have, and the Carpenter decision legitimized that. So maybe you did that, but for the purpose of hiring, for example, most carriers aren't going to regard it that way.

49 posted on 06/15/2024 11:54:27 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Sam77

Not uncommon.


50 posted on 06/15/2024 12:02:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: for-q-clinton
I bet it’s a DEI hire as they refuse to give the flight number or crew names.

Wi Tu Lo?

51 posted on 06/15/2024 12:09:59 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I was drowning in self pity until I bathed in the refreshing Lake of Respect.)
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To: BipolarBob

more like

Shaniqua.


52 posted on 06/15/2024 12:10:53 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Sam77

Had to be heart damage done on that flight pacemakers available in the lobby.


53 posted on 06/15/2024 12:16:44 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: fretzer

“The less-experienced first officer “inadvertently” pushed forward on the control column before cutting the speed, causing the airplane to descend rapidly.”

Dive, Dive!!


54 posted on 06/15/2024 12:39:36 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Sam77

55 posted on 06/15/2024 12:39:48 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Sam77

Wanted to surf the waves?


56 posted on 06/15/2024 12:48:36 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: fretzer

“first officer “inadvertently” pushed forward on the control column before cutting the speed”

Had a mexican pilot on an Aero Mexico flight liked to descend that way. Scared hell out of a few of the passenders feeling the bottom fall out.


57 posted on 06/15/2024 12:50:15 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Sam77

Boeing has mastered Russian roulette...
This is going to end very badly...


58 posted on 06/15/2024 12:56:20 PM PDT by SuperLuminal ( Where is Samuel Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: BrexitBen
Do drag queens make good airplanes?

Dunno, butt fairies can fly without them...

59 posted on 06/15/2024 1:04:19 PM PDT by null and void (“No matter how cynical you become, it’s never enough to keep up”. ~ Lily Tomlin)
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To: null and void

Will the cockpit voice recorder reveal that the first officer was chanting ‘allahu ackbar’ all the way down?


60 posted on 06/15/2024 1:13:21 PM PDT by null and void (“No matter how cynical you become, it’s never enough to keep up”. ~ Lily Tomlin)
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