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Will a Money Hungry Government Take Away Your IRA and 401K?...A Bloomberg op-ed proposes the government will kill the 401K, and also that it should.
https://mishtalk.com ^ | February 27, 2024 | Mike 'Mish' Shedlock

Posted on 02/29/2024 5:31:44 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: OftheOhio

Metzenbaum was a real piece of work. He was also a rabid anti-gun zealot.


61 posted on 02/29/2024 7:23:42 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Red Badger
Basically, they'll eliminate all tax benefits from IRA's and 401k’. They will immediately start taxing you on all dividends and income gained in them. Some people will have to sell a portion of their investments in order to pay the taxes, thus starting a downward income cycle. There will be nothing left by the time you die. With no inheritance to leave your next of kin the government in effect will have taken everything you have.
62 posted on 02/29/2024 7:53:04 AM PST by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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All of this cost the government an estimated $185 billion in 2019, or 0.9% of GDP.

No, it doesn't.

Not taxing citizens cost the government nothing.

63 posted on 02/29/2024 8:03:04 AM PST by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: Chaka7887

“taxing unrealized gains”

That is going to be fun to watch.

Wealthy folks in those states should move out of there now—why take a chance?


64 posted on 02/29/2024 8:05:29 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Disambiguator

There’s an old cartoon I remember about republicans screwing over the poor people.

The republicans finally took control over Ohio by eliminating the “Echeck” program (auto tail pipe emissions testing) and it’s results. If you had any kind of vehicle that could tow a boat or trailer you failed. It was hilarious to watch, I’ve never seen so many pissed off people. I had a guy standing next to me with a clipboard. The guy testing failed my van, but ran it through again because of the guy with the clipboard. It passed the second try.

I imagine the current EPA talks are making Ohioans nervous again, lol.


65 posted on 02/29/2024 8:06:51 AM PST by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: political1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO79rkfV0PI


66 posted on 02/29/2024 8:08:37 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: OftheOhio

I have a clipboard next to my front door now, lol.


67 posted on 02/29/2024 8:11:46 AM PST by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: Red Badger

Let’s hear it for Fear Porn!
Sometimes I wonder ... should we call this website FearPornBlick?
Good morning, FearPers! What can we FRet about today?


68 posted on 02/29/2024 8:39:06 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: Red Badger
The crap about only the "wealthy" benefiting is a consequence of people who just make enough to live paycheck to paycheck that don't have resources to save. Once they get past that point and do have resources, suddenly they are "wealthy" from the perspective of these political idiots.

The savings are tax deferred. They will be taxed later. Likely at higher tax rates with the passing of time.

69 posted on 02/29/2024 9:26:13 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Red Badger

It was always coming. Way back under Hillary’s Healthcare Panel, Teresa Ghilarducci was promoting a one-off assessment of 401Ks to fund HillaryCare.


70 posted on 02/29/2024 9:28:56 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Red Badger

Saving is Unfair to the Poor

President Biden, along with Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, all believe government should take care of you, not that you should try to take care of yourself.

Rather than encourage more saving, the ultra-Left proposal is to call saving unfair to the poor and eliminate 401Ks for everyone.


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71 posted on 02/29/2024 9:33:06 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Red Badger

Ever notice it’s always about transferring wealth to the government, and never about the government spending problem?

If the Federal Government were to shrink by about 40% a lot of America’s big problems would either shrink drastically and/or disappear all together. That’s good for America, but bad for Washington and the parasite class which means it will only be accomplished by extreme measures. The dems are 100% against anything that even slows down the growth of government, and far too many Republicans evidently feel the same way. America needs REAL leadership, and there is a dearth of that in Washington.


72 posted on 02/29/2024 9:36:14 AM PST by Rlsau1
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To: Red Badger

Personally, I expect the government to steal everything. They really are evil in every way. Bastards.


73 posted on 02/29/2024 11:54:56 AM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: OftheOhio

Sounds like they had it in for anything with a V8 engine.


74 posted on 02/29/2024 12:06:23 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Lurker

There are some states that are strongly considering taxing unrealized gains.


75 posted on 02/29/2024 12:38:30 PM PST by Chaka7887
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To: mikelets456

“..They don’t care about the tax money, they care about destroying the middle class and the American way of life....The money is the excuse, confiscation is their goal....”

^THIS^
“..You’ll own NOTHING and be happy.....”

Work your sorry arse off all your life trying to raise a family and make ends meet, all the time paying their thieving vile taxes, while trying to do the “right thing”, and maybe save a little for your old age years. Then, have some puke, socialist/communist greedy SOB come in and steal it all? To give to some undeserving lazy POS? All in “fairness” to the poor?
They can ALL go F themselves and ESAD.
Let’s make a deal: Go ahead and confiscate my retirement plan and, in return, give me back ALL the money that I, and my employer, paid in over the years...with interest based on the going interest rate for each year that it was paid in, we’ll call it “fair” and walk away never to be seen or heard from again.
Whadda bunch of greedy POSs......


76 posted on 02/29/2024 12:56:56 PM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created..." )
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To: Disambiguator

No, it was pretty much anything. I was driving a 6 cylinder. Even brand new cars were failing. What was funny was my sister’s car back axle must have been offset somewhat and it tried to climb the rollers sideways, lol. All kinds of stuff liked that happened. Echeck put the republicans in power. Lack of E-Verify for illegals is going to boot them out.


77 posted on 02/29/2024 7:28:19 PM PST by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: Red Badger

Shedlock wrote a very disjointed and incoherent piece.

Normally he’s better than that.

And damn you autocorrect.


78 posted on 03/01/2024 5:32:17 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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