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USPS Reacts to Court Restoring Second Amendment Rights on Postal Property
AmmoLand ^ | January 23, 2024 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 01/25/2024 5:18:34 AM PST by marktwain

In January of 2023, a Florida federal district Court restored the right to keep and bear arms on United States Postal Service (USPS) property. The court ruled a statute banning the possession of guns on USPS property, dating from 1972, was unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.  Currently, the ruling only applies to the individual case in Florida. The USPS has issued a statement aimed at employees, stating the USPS policy has not changed. From the USPS:

A recent Florida district court decision is being misreported or may be misinterpreted as holding that the Postal Service’s ban on carrying firearms — either openly or concealed, or storing them on USPS property — is unconstitutional.

In fact, the case dealt with a different federal statute and does not involve the Postal Service’s regulation. Therefore, it does not change the organization’s policy.

Employees are reminded that carrying or storing firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives — either openly or concealed — on USPS property is prohibited and can result in discipline up to and including removal from the Postal Service, as well as potential prosecution.

An outlet dealing with the federal government, focusing on issues which matter the most to “federal agency managers, policy makers and contractors,” quotes USPS spokesperson Jim McKean. From the Federal News Network:

“The Postal Service regulates its facilities for the safety, economy, and convenience of customers and employees engaged in postal business nationwide. One Postal Service regulation in this regard prohibits the possession or storage of firearms on real property under the charge and control of the Postal Service, and that regulation was upheld by a federal court of appeals in 2015,” McKean said. “We are evaluating the interplay between our regulation and the recent interpretation

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The Post Office is relying on a decision from the Tenth Circuit from before the Bruen decision.
1 posted on 01/25/2024 5:18:34 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

So it is now law(s) of the land not LAW of the land ??


2 posted on 01/25/2024 5:20:46 AM PST by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count)
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To: marktwain

They can do as they please, our overlords.


3 posted on 01/25/2024 5:23:26 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: marktwain

There are no laws.
There is only power.


4 posted on 01/25/2024 5:24:53 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

...and the abuse thereof.


5 posted on 01/25/2024 5:26:34 AM PST by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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To: marktwain

Now we can go Postal again! Sounds like a CIA/FBI plot, eh?


6 posted on 01/25/2024 5:27:49 AM PST by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: marktwain
on USPS property is prohibited and can result in discipline up to and including removal from the Postal Service,

This actually seems like a reasonable restriction when you take into account that:

1. Most postal employees are Dems which want to control guns and cannot be trusted with guns.

2. Going postal was based on employees not customers.
7 posted on 01/25/2024 5:27:50 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: marktwain

I can understand (I don’t agree, but I can understand) banning carry inside the building, but inside your car in the parking lot should be permissible.


8 posted on 01/25/2024 5:29:39 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: marktwain

An employer can set the rules for its employees. A place of public usage generally can not prohibit the public from exercising its rights, but local and state laws may apply.


9 posted on 01/25/2024 5:30:14 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: marktwain

I’ve had 2A rights on postal property, well, forever.


10 posted on 01/25/2024 5:30:42 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Yo-Yo

When I went to work for TxDOT they had the same policy. When HR had me sign a statement acknowledging the policy I told them:
1. You don’t have the authority to search my vehicle.
2. I will never give permission to search it.

They knew I had a weapon (actually had 2, my carry weapon and my truck weapon) but couldn’t do anything about it. The policy was later reversed and we could conceal carry everywhere on TxDOT property.


11 posted on 01/25/2024 5:43:09 AM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: marktwain

It seems they can disregard a legal decision they don’t like.
What’s good for the goose, eh?


12 posted on 01/25/2024 5:50:24 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

They can regulate their employee conduct but it should not be criminal under the 2nd amendment.


13 posted on 01/25/2024 5:52:02 AM PST by gunnut
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To: Buttons12

The USPS stance on weapons is in stark contrast to earlier days when they REQUIRED all pilots carrying the mail to be provided a gun.

The original issued gun was a Model 1908 Colt Pocket Hammerless pistol. After that the issued weapon of choice was the military’s Colt .38 Spl revolver.

Guns were completely banned after 9/11 though no guns were used in the highjackings.

In 2002 Congress forced the TSA to create the federal flight deck officer (FFDO) program and the new government issued weapon was and remains to be the Heckler & Koch USP Compact LEM (Law Enforcement Modification) .40 S&W pistol with holster and magazine pouch.

EC


14 posted on 01/25/2024 5:54:36 AM PST by Ex-Con777
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Before I retired from being a mailman I remember my boss having a gun in work and vaguely threatening an employee. Luckily it’s the post office so no one took management seriously


15 posted on 01/25/2024 5:57:14 AM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: Recompennation

NEVER TRUST A GOVERNMENT THAT DOES NOT TRUST ITS CITIZENS WITH GUNS......-——GEORGE WASHINGTON.


16 posted on 01/25/2024 6:00:46 AM PST by chopperk (e )
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To: marktwain

I noticed the other day that my local post office removed the no firearms allowed sticker on the door. I kind of thought that was odd.


17 posted on 01/25/2024 6:04:28 AM PST by MissouriDirtFarmer
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To: Recompennation
Currently, the ruling only applies to the individual case in Florida.
18 posted on 01/25/2024 6:06:16 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: MissouriDirtFarmer

Good! Our second amendment writes should not end when we arrive at Postal Service property.


19 posted on 01/25/2024 6:09:32 AM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: chopperk

Never trust a person who copies spurious quotes from the internet — Unknown


20 posted on 01/25/2024 6:35:50 AM PST by JSM_Liberty
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