AVIATION PING!..................
so who is right?
And when it happens, the mockingbirds will treat the cause as a complete mystery.
Hopefully that pilot reports it so its on record.
DIE is an excuse to commit mass murder.
I was in the hospital when a young black woman came in and announced, “I be doin’ your surgery tomorrow.” I was a little frightened by the Blacklish. I asked her a few questions and her answers were prefaced with, “I tell you what the textbook say, the textbook say (XXXX.)” I was terrified for three reasons, she apparently only had whatever the textbook had said in her repertoire which told me she had no experience, I associate the improper use of English with a special kind of non-intelligence, and I have underwear older than her. When I mentioned this encounter with my surgeon, I got an embarrassed mumbled response, (”uhm, yeah, some kind of mumblemumble misunderstanding) but it was the regular surgeon who performed the procedure.
To be clear, my surgeon was a woman, but I was confident she knew her stuff. She also came across as educated, was able to answer questions with authority. I hate to say this, but in the industrial world I sometimes came across well dressed, attractive, young women in positions of authority only to discover they had been hired because they were well dressed and attractive but knew nothing about the job they were supposed to do. Those people are really dangerous because once the people who hired and managed them retire guess who is left running things. I have learned that when that happens, I need to sell my stock.
When I met this doctor I heard, “I need him awake for about thirty seconds.” A face swam into view, fingers lifted an oxygen mask I hadn’t realized was there. She said, “Hello, Mr. Pearson. I am doctor “Smith.” I need to perform an emergency insertion of a filter in the vein leading to your lungs. If I don’t do this now you will die. Do you understand?” I nodded. I’m pretty sure I signed a release which I am certain would not stand up in court as I had no control over my hand, and somebody guided my hand across the page. But she did a good job. So, you can’t say all attractive, well-dressed women are incompetent. But referencing the information on a bubblegum card instead of experience is a clue you need to look out for.
Dirty Harry said it best way back in 1976...
Snotty, immature woman quite full of herself determined to boss around an accomplished male. And yes, this kind of nonsense does have dire consequences. Just not for the perpetrators.
Update:
The video is an edit of the radio traffic.
See here for the actual video/transcript
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic0VuPwdOWM
and here for some interesting commentary
https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comments/172moh7/short_approach_power_off_180/
The FAA definition of short approach is Used by ATC to inform a pilot to alter his/her traffic pattern so as to make a short final approach. So she is reading way too much into it. He did nothing wrong from a flying perspective. Maybe could have communicated his intentions better. Controlled fields are not the best place to practice emergencies if the tower is in a policing mood.
This is probably more about the pilot being white and conservative and the controller being a person of color trying to establish her authority than anything else.
There is no formal “mechanical” definition of what makes an approach “short,” neither in the FARs nor in the AIMs, other than it’s shorter than a “normal” one. A short approach in an Antonov 225 (RIP) is quite a different thing from a short approach in a Helio-Courier.
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/pcg_html/glossary-m.html
That said, they both should have to go sit in the time-out chair for arguing on freq.
That said, a quick WhatFinger search (don’t G**gle cuz G**gle is da debil) tells me 1, this incident took place weeks ago, and 2, this particular ATC is notorious for this crap. The pilot might have been baiting her to get the full extent of her stupidity on record.
African belligerence.
She violated FAA regulations having such a conversation on the radio. She is also dead wrong about her Internet search crap. The FAR/AIM states what is regulation, not google. She and her supervisor should be immediately terminated from the FAA.
She is also dead wrong about her definition of a ‘short approach’. It is NOT about turning to base abeam of the numbers. That would be a dangerous maneuver for civilian aircraft, even if practiced for emergency procedures. It reduces the useable runway by about 2,500 feet.
That African IQ idiot violated several key regulations needing her immediate termination.
Oh, she googled it, so it must be accurate. Right? /s
Recently, the tremendous US record for air safety established since the 1970s has been fraying at the edges. The first three months of 2023 saw nine near-miss incidents at US airports, one with two planes coming within 100 feet of colliding. This terrifying uptick from years prior resulted in the FAA and NTSB convening safety summits in March and May, respectively. It seems unlikely that they dared to discuss root causes.As of 2014, 83 per cent of air controllers in the US were White men.
That year, the FAA added a Biographical Questionnaire (BQ) to the screening process to tilt the applicant pool toward “diverse” candidates. Facing pushback in the courts from well-qualified candidates who were screened out, the FAA quietly backed away from the BQ and adopted a new exam, the Air Traffic Skills Assessment (ATSA). While the ATSA includes some questions similar to those of the BQ, it restored the test’s focus on core air traffic skills.
Facing pushback in the courts from well-qualified candidates who were screened out, the FAA quietly backed away from the BQ and adopted a new exam, the Air Traffic Skills Assessment (ATSA). While the ATSA includes some questions similar to those of the BQ, it restored the test’s focus on core air traffic skills.
The self assurance of the controller based upon her google search, was mind-boggling. The 15 year experienced pilot was gob-smacked as to what he was being told. It was against all his knowledge and training.
Reading through the posts”
1) It as always been this way throughout history. There are competent people and there are not. Be an educated consumer.
2) If you are good at what you do there is unlimited opportunity. Be that guy.
She is not PIC, she has no authority to tell that pilot how to fly. Period.