Posted on 01/11/2024 5:29:46 AM PST by Red Badger
VIDEO AT LINK...............
This diversity stuff will get people killed......................
Update:
The video is an edit of the radio traffic.
See here for the actual video/transcript
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic0VuPwdOWM
and here for some interesting commentary
https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comments/172moh7/short_approach_power_off_180/
I have no problem with minorites in any position so long as they are in that position due to skill. The surgeon that opened my chest and repaired my heart (aortic valve and ascending aorta replacement) was from India. I checked him out as I would any surgeon of any creed or race. His reputation was excellent. I told him, “you can do this surgery.”
This is what the Bolsheviks did after the Revolution. Only children of peasants and working class folks could get into Universities, and get decent jobs, while anyone who was from a ‘privileged’ background was denied opportunities. This was emulated in the Captive Nations, after WWII.
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i didn’t get the impression that she googled it during the live approach, but she wanted to clarify her standing... i would definitely give the pilot with the experience the more credibility, but knowing nothing about airport regulations, was just wondering who was right...
i have seen experienced people make mistakes all the time.
The FAA definition of short approach is Used by ATC to inform a pilot to alter his/her traffic pattern so as to make a short final approach. So she is reading way too much into it. He did nothing wrong from a flying perspective. Maybe could have communicated his intentions better. Controlled fields are not the best place to practice emergencies if the tower is in a policing mood.
This is probably more about the pilot being white and conservative and the controller being a person of color trying to establish her authority than anything else.
I was being given a “port” by two probably Filipino nurses who had “RN” on their badges. The one doing the insertion was shaking. The other one was urgently whispering to her and running a finger over the insertion site to illustrate to her how to do it. The first one had obviously never stuck a needle into a vein before as the other nurse was apparently explaining what a vein versus an artery looked like and how to find it, in a language I didn’t recognize, so probably Tagalog.
In a latter incident, after I had passed out on the toilet for lack of blood the first nurse in a panic had actually called the duty doctor. Over my prostrate and convulsing body, the second nurse told the first nurse to never actually call a doctor but to only text them. I can’t imagine what a text in English from someone who apparently didn’t speak any would read like. When the doctor arrived and they started working on me, the first nurse apologized to the doctor for calling instead of texting. He said, “If you had texted instead of calling, he would be dead now. You did the right thing.” Incidentally, the duty doctor was a young black man, and he came across as professional and competent. (Oh, and by-the-way, built like a pro body builder.) But some of the nurses had clearly lied on their resumes and at least one was not an RN.
I know someone who thinks a relative is a genius because she looks stuff up 🙄🙄🙄
Of course they don’t get the right information - just what’s popular in her wildly worldly liberal echo chamber.
Remember the days of SAPP? 🤣😂😅😜
There is no formal “mechanical” definition of what makes an approach “short,” neither in the FARs nor in the AIMs, other than it’s shorter than a “normal” one. A short approach in an Antonov 225 (RIP) is quite a different thing from a short approach in a Helio-Courier.
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/pcg_html/glossary-m.html
That said, they both should have to go sit in the time-out chair for arguing on freq.
That said, a quick WhatFinger search (don’t G**gle cuz G**gle is da debil) tells me 1, this incident took place weeks ago, and 2, this particular ATC is notorious for this crap. The pilot might have been baiting her to get the full extent of her stupidity on record.
We, the USA, give way too much cred to foreign nursing and med schools..................
Bingo...............Damn! That runway sure is W-i-d-e-!...........
How sad, that this pilot apologized.
“We, the USA, give way too much cred to foreign nursing and med schools..................”
I don’t think anyone here is fooled. The hospital appears to be very short-staffed. The competent nurses can make much more money and have better schedules working for private practices or even working for individuals...wealthy people who employ them as their personal staff. I’ve talked to several good nurses who will tell me they spent years working at the hospital but view their present specialized jobs as almost retirement in comparison. One of the nurses who prepped me for an MRI told me she was older than me, 70, and was only still working because on her relatively easy schedule she was making much more money than as an ER nurse.
Olathe center would not put up with her freakish control behavior. As you said, he apologized on the air, she should have accepted that unless some kind of loss of life was generated by her totally ambiguous terminology.
“Short” and “long” are relative terms like “hot” and “cold”. They represent different things to different people.
She needs lots of work in Podunk airports before she gets to play with the big kids again.
There are a lot of air traffic controllers(and retired) here in the Nashua area. That is because there is an FAA center here that controls all flights coming over the Atlantic and every flight east of Cleveland.
My electrician was an ATC there until he got fired by Ronald Regan.
A friends son is a ATC at Miami International currently. He graduated high school and joined the USAF with a contract to make him an ATC. He had to pass an aptitude test first.
He was accepted and trained for six months somewhere in the mid west. He was sent to Baghdad during the second Gulf War. He did a year in Baghdad. Never left the base except weekend passes occasionally.
He came back and spent another six months stateside and was out(2 years). He immediately applied to the FAA and was accepted into their training program. He did another 4 months training in some place in the mid west. He graduated from FAA training and was given a choice of three airports to choose from. He was 21 year old, so he chose Miami International. His starting pay was $75K and he had ZERO college debt.
He will be able to retire soon.
African belligerence.
She violated FAA regulations having such a conversation on the radio. She is also dead wrong about her Internet search crap. The FAR/AIM states what is regulation, not google. She and her supervisor should be immediately terminated from the FAA.
She is also dead wrong about her definition of a ‘short approach’. It is NOT about turning to base abeam of the numbers. That would be a dangerous maneuver for civilian aircraft, even if practiced for emergency procedures. It reduces the useable runway by about 2,500 feet.
That African IQ idiot violated several key regulations needing her immediate termination.
Thats wacis!
She sounded like the ink on her ATC tix was still wet...........
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