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1 posted on 12/31/2023 11:24:00 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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The Anti-Defamation League also denounced Carlson’s comments about Zelensky as antisemitic

I really dislike this sort of "can't touch this" approach. Zelenksy is Jewish? Well then, you cannot criticize the man. In fact, there are billions of reasons to criticize Zelensky and it is not antisemitic to do so.

Similarly, I have made comments about the globalization of the economy, and problems I have with Central Banking, and NGOs spreading huge amounts of money around for bad purposes -- in short: I dislike International Banking. And the response I have often received is: "Oh? You hate the Jews? Is that it??" No. I just don't like International Banking.

It's OK to criticize things. Fear of being called antisemitic (or, in other cases, Islamophobic) is no reason to stop criticizing things that are bad.

2 posted on 12/31/2023 11:30:36 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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The U.S. gives Israel so much military aid in order to pressure Israel not to utterly destroy the Hamas-supporting Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. If the U.S. were to cut back the aid to Israel, it likely that Israel would be forced to quickly eliminate the current and future threats from Hamas and Hezbollah and their supporters.


3 posted on 12/31/2023 11:30:37 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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Cut me a freaking break. Suddenly anti-semitism is trotted out to slime a conservative.

Hamas protestors in our streets celebrating slaughter of Jews? Crickets.

I didn’t even know Zelensky was Jewish. But where is Tucker going wrong other than being over the top? Zelensky at one point mentioned assassinated Congress members who didn’t pass an aid package.


4 posted on 12/31/2023 11:31:10 AM PST by FlipWilson
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Ben Shapiro is to conservative thought, what rock candy is to Halloween.


5 posted on 12/31/2023 11:36:13 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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Anyone that thinks refugees from Gaza should be allowed into the US doesn’t care about the country. Duh!


7 posted on 12/31/2023 11:55:43 AM PST by Kazan
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Did Tucker say Zelenskyy is “sweaty and rat-like, a comedian turned oligarch, a persecutor of Christians, a friend of Blackrock” and “shifty,” “dead-eyed,” and “a person who would enjoy flooding villages or starting a famine” BECAUSE Zelenskyy is Jewish? Or did he say those things about Zelenskyy without regard to the little dictator’s religious beliefs or heritage?

It’s like criticizing George Soros. Sure, criticism of Soros COULD be because he is Jewish, or COULD be because Soros is a western-hating, socialist jerk.


9 posted on 12/31/2023 12:02:49 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O’Rourke)
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Tucker has a point, all one has to do is look at vast number of Jewish politicians, celebrities and millionaires who maintain duel citizenship with Israel . You can bet little Ben Shapiro is one of thousands.


11 posted on 12/31/2023 12:08:08 PM PST by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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A classically antisemitic slander that is so patently false as to require no mind other than to condemn its source as an exceptionally evil liar who should be removed from the public square.


12 posted on 12/31/2023 12:09:19 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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“The Anti-Defamation League also denounced Carlson’s comments about Zelensky as antisemitic:”

Sounds like some folks have adopted the backs “civil rights gurus” proclaiming that any criticism of blacks is racist to their: any criticism of a Jew for whatever reason is anti-Semitic.


14 posted on 12/31/2023 12:25:06 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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Blah blah blah. Just like ’racism’ used as a weapon.

Israeli media on Monday said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is pushing for plans to implement "voluntary migration" on the Palestinians in Gaza to other countries.

If these people are dangerious why should any other nation take them?

15 posted on 12/31/2023 12:27:07 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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Tucker Carlson, the populist pundit who led Fox News’s evening lineup until his ouster in April 2023, said in an interview this week that Ben Shapiro of the Daily Wire “[doesn’t] care about the country at all,” accusing him and other pro-Israel voices of being “focused on a conflict in a foreign country as their own country becomes dangerously unstable.”

Carlson is unhinged. US aid to Israel helps the US*, while you do not put Zelensky (who is envious of Israel) and Shapiro together in one boat unless the target is being Jewish.

From what I know Shapiro debates liberals who work to fundamentally "transition" America, and the younger favor Hamas, while if being Jewish means being protected from criticism from conservatives then he needs to tell Soros that. *

Hamas spends $100 million a year on military infrastructure.Khatib)... As the residents of the Gaza Strip endure daily hardships due to the dire economic situation in the enclave, their Hamas leaders spend over $100 million a year on the group’s military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, according to estimates by both Israeli and Palestinian sources. Spending on digging tunnels accounts for some $40 million of that annual sum. By way of comparison, the budget of the last Hamas government, which dissolved in April 2014, was $530 million. - https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-spends-100-million-a-year-on-military-infrastructure/
And as for US aid, much of that is returned via purchases.

Israel ends up sacrificing far more value in return for the nearly $4 billion it annually receives from Washington. That’s because nearly all military aid to Israel—other than loan guarantees, which cost Washington nothing, the U.S. gives Israel no other kind of aid—consists of credits that go directly from the Pentagon to U.S. weapons manufacturers. In return, American payouts undermine Israel’s domestic defense industry, weaken its economy, and compromise the country’s autonomy—giving Washington veto power over everything from Israeli weapons sales to diplomatic and military strategy. When Washington meddles directly in Israel’s domestic affairs, as it does often these days, Israeli leaders who have lobbied for these payments—including current Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu—are simply reaping the rewards of their own penny-wise, pound-foolish efforts.
The Israeli military, often ranked as the fourth-most powerful in the world, has become an adjunct to American power in a crucial region in which the U.S. has lost the appetite for projecting military force. Israeli intelligence functions as America’s eyes and ears, not just in the Middle East but in other key strategic theaters like Russia and Central Asia and even parts of Latin America. Controlling access to the output of Israel’s powerful high-tech sector is a strategic advantage for the U.S. that alone is worth many multiples of the credits Israel receives. - https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/end-american-aid-israel [and that source is actually opposing the amount of aid.]
The only option here is to contend that the US should be an isolationist country.

Friends with Benefits: Why the U.S.-Israeli Alliance Is Good for America by Michael Eisenstadt, David Pollock ...

. The U.S.-Israeli alliance now contributes more than ever to American security, as bilateral cooperation to deal with both military and nonmilitary challenges has grown in recent years... it is a two-way partnership whose benefits to the United States have been substantial. The other, less tangible costs of the U.S.-Israeli alliance -- mainly, damage to Washington's reputation in Arab and Muslim countries, a problem also caused by American interventions and decades of U.S. support for autocratic leaders in the Middle East -- pale in comparison with the economic, military, and political gains it affords Washington.

Israel has also emerged as an important niche defense supplier to the U.S. military, with sales growing from $300 million per year before September 11 to $1.1 billion in 2006, due to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Israel's military research and development complex has pioneered many cutting-edge technologies that are transforming the face of modern war, including cyberweapons, unmanned vehicles (such as land robots and aerial drones), sensors and electronic warfare systems, and advanced defenses for military vehicles. - https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/friends-benefits-why-us-israeli-alliance-good-america

The U.S.-Israeli economic and commercial relationship now spans IT, bio-tech, life sciences, health care solutions, energy, pharmaceuticals, food and beverage, defense industries, cyber-security, and aviation, to name just a few sectors.
Critical components of leading American high-tech products are invented and designed in Israel, making these American companies more competitive and more profitable globally. Cisco, Intel, Motorola, Applied Materials, and HP are just a few examples.
Israel is home to more than 2,500 U.S. firms employing some 72,000 Israelis, according to an estimate by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Thousands more jobs are supported indirectly by these employers.
The Massachusetts Example
The New England-Israel Business Council released a study that shows that Israeli-founded businesses have generated about 9,000 jobs in Massachusetts alone, and indirectly support an additional 18,000. These companies represent nearly four per
cent of the state’s GDP. And that is just one state. In Beersheva – less than an hour’s train ride from Tel Aviv –American and Israeli companies are working side-by-side at CyberSpark. It is a fast-growing, world-class, hi-tech office park, adjacent to a top academic institution, Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, and not far from where critical public-sector institutions, such as the IDF’s cyber and intelligence units, will soon be located. This unique eco-system is rapidly attracting more American companies to take part in developing the defenses that will protect the new economy. - https://il.usembassy.gov/our-relationship/policy-history/fact-sheet-u-s-israel-economic-relationship/

16 posted on 12/31/2023 12:29:49 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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“Dog whistles” aren’t real. It’s just in one’s imagination .


17 posted on 12/31/2023 12:33:37 PM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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Shapiro and many other high profile Jewish conservatives discuss issues concerning America all the time. The fact that Ben has spent a lot of time on the Gaza War (an enormous story) since Oct. 7 isn’t in any war indicative of him not caring about America. It’s a ridiculous assertion.


18 posted on 12/31/2023 12:36:21 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Tucker left out the part about Putin going from oligarch to comedian.


23 posted on 12/31/2023 12:53:08 PM PST by SpaceBar
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I love Tucker, but I disagree with the camp within conservatism that believes the U.S. should never intervene in events beyond our own soil. The U.S. Navy and Marines had their genesis in traveling across the Atlantic to fight the Islamic Barbary pirates, who were interfering with international shipping. So even in the early days of this nation, the need to protect America’s interests anywhere on the globe was well recognized. In today’s world, where nuclear weapons can severely damage the U.S., if not end it, within minutes, it is vital that the U.S. eliminate developing threats before they can threaten us (Iran is a prime example).

What these isolationist conservatives are failing to do is to make a distinction between legitimate intervention and allowing the U.S. military to serve as the police force for the globalists. There’s a big difference, and the two are not one in the same.

29 posted on 12/31/2023 1:08:41 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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“what explains this…literal allegiance to narrative on Ukraine, [and] on Israel,” asserting that “so many of these people don’t seem to have this same level of care about actual American citizens.”

Great question...and you see variations of this question asked repeatedly to many of the Ukraine shills on this forum.

I think Mike Pence summed their general response when he said, 'that's not my concern'.

51 posted on 12/31/2023 2:26:52 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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Don’t like Ben Shapiro just like don’t like Tucker.

Usually on the right side of issues, but can be kooky and unreliable.

Tucker’s isolationism is irresponsible. He does not support backing our allies or interests anywhere in the world.

How many here don’t support Israel after what Hamas did?

All we do is give Israel equipment. That bothers Tucker?


52 posted on 12/31/2023 2:28:53 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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I don’t agree that Tucker is anti Semitic. Although when I think about it he hates Kushner,Zelensky and now Shapiro.

But I don’t think that’s it. Tucker is a kook about American involvement in the world, and he does not approach that issue honestly.

I watched Tucker put on reprehsible guests and nod approvingly as they said crazy stuff.

He opposes supporting Taiwan and Israel. He agreed with guests who said Iran would defeat us in a war. And one guest said all marines do in the world is steal other countries resources. Tucker nodded.

You don’t have to support Israel,Taiwan or Ukraine, or want to stand up to Iran or China, but I do and Tucker is a nut.

He agreed with a guest who said not to worry about China because “They aren’t going to invade California “.

If that’s your view of the world, you can have him.


56 posted on 12/31/2023 2:42:05 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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I wish both of these losers would go away.


59 posted on 12/31/2023 2:46:31 PM PST by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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Tucker Carlson; better to be a has been than a never was.


64 posted on 12/31/2023 2:55:16 PM PST by Clemenza
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