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Vanity - Jordan loses 3rd vote to be elected speaker
Wuli | 10/20/23 | Wuli

Posted on 10/20/2023 9:17:24 AM PDT by Wuli

Why don't quite a number of GOP House members just admit they don't want to be in a political party, don't understand what having a political majority can mean for all members of the party, and just want to stand out instead of being included - so why don't they just leave their party and be done with it, and provide the inevitable, handing the speaker role to the Dims.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: circus; clownshow; gop; gopclowns; house; housespeaker; jimjordan; jonjordan; speaker; vanity
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To: Wuli

The 8 to 22 proportion is probably accurate.

The overall House membership probably has almost 3 RINOs per each MAGA.


41 posted on 10/20/2023 10:18:00 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: BlackAdderess
I think Scalise is probably as good as it gets.

Which isn't saying much, sadly. At this point, those voters that believe in freedom and the values on which this country was founded have nowhere to turn. It should be obvious that the GOP is a complete dumpster fire at this point, and cannot be relied upon to fight the good fight.

42 posted on 10/20/2023 10:19:20 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (To solve the Democrat problem, the RINO problem must first be solved.)
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To: Wuli

The states cannot act to implement such a manner unilaterally, and if they did, it would be deemed unconstitutional. It would have to be through Constitutional Amendment, which the states would then ratify.

Having to wait 2 or 6 years to rid a member who effectively lied their way into office is unacceptable. Even the Founding Fathers expected that (for U.S. Senators at least), that when the legislatures changed hands (which in those days were often held yearly), said Senator would resign immediately and allow for the Governor to appoint an interim Senator pending the election by the legislature for a new Senator.

Since that was considered a gentleman’s agreement and was not ratified into law (or as part of the Constitution), U.S. Senators recognized they weren’t bound to abide by that and would hold on to their seats for the full 6 years in the hope that things would be more favorable for them when they came up for reelection.

I think that has become a grievous mistake, and has only empowered the political left in this country (in both parties). If members in both Houses were accountable from day one if they were not doing the people’s business, it would drastically alter their behavior. You wouldn’t have 25 RINOs holding the House hostage in doing the bidding of the Demonrat opposition when swift recalls would be held to remove them.


43 posted on 10/20/2023 10:19:31 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Wuli

They don’t call it the “stupid party” for nothing.


44 posted on 10/20/2023 10:21:59 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: sarge83

Donald Trump and Matt Gaetz have exposed a lot of these treasonous scumbags within the GOP.


45 posted on 10/20/2023 10:24:21 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: aquila48

You can change “stupid”. You can’t change evil.


46 posted on 10/20/2023 10:24:22 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: Major Matt Mason

I don’t disagree with you


47 posted on 10/20/2023 10:24:41 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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To: C210N

“‘Nobody’ Won!

Long live ‘Nobody’ for SOTH.”

Hear Hear... I am so sick of the Chicken little “The sky is falling” narrative. No it isn’t... Nothing is a good thing.


48 posted on 10/20/2023 10:26:21 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

Democracy should be chaotic.

You want “order” and “unity”, try the Nazis or the Communists.


49 posted on 10/20/2023 10:29:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Checks and balances. It was designed that way for a reason.


50 posted on 10/20/2023 10:31:33 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Wuli

They are trying to wag the dog.


51 posted on 10/20/2023 11:04:47 AM PDT by pas
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To: Bratch

Whoa! Good find. Thanks for this important post. Should be Breaking News or Front Page News.


52 posted on 10/20/2023 11:05:39 AM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Wuli

Every member of the Freedom caucus should vote against ANY speaker until Trump is nominated and voted on.


53 posted on 10/20/2023 11:18:11 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

And that’s one of the reasons for Trump’s betrayal in 2020 by the establishment liberals GOP. They sold the we’re conservatives and the only answer to the Democrats since Bush 41 and it was and is always a lie straight out of hell, they ARE DEMOCRATS.


54 posted on 10/20/2023 11:27:39 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You are correct that the Constitution does not permit states to recall their House and Senate elected representatives.

That does leave a Constitutional amendment as the only means for having recall elections against sitting House of Senate members. That is a strange hole let if the Constitution because the House and the Senate are able to “expel” members with a 2/3 vote, yet their own constituents cannot do as much.


55 posted on 10/20/2023 11:36:59 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

Of course, at the time in the early Republic, we had a lot more intelligent voters with skin in the game who weren’t actively looking to sabotage the nation. As a result, you didn’t have a plethora of elected officials who were treasonous or seditious. Those that might’ve had such behaviors would’ve found themselves hanging from the end of a rope.


56 posted on 10/20/2023 11:55:01 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: GAgal

IBTZ


57 posted on 10/20/2023 1:26:39 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Wuli

If it votes like a Dem, why stay with the Republicans? Must be a local thingy, like bragging about crossing the aisles and being bipartisan all the while selling you down the River.


58 posted on 10/21/2023 9:34:27 AM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness )
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