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Does Trump's Shutdown Decision Disqualify a Future Presidency?
Red State ^ | 08/05/2023 | Manic Contrarian

Posted on 08/05/2023 6:12:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

So, I’m having a friendly debate with somebody about this “IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU!” post by Mr. Trump…

My friend, a retired police officer, is a great guy, salt of the earth, etc. He thinks it’s an understandable representation of Trump’s frustration. And maybe it is. But the question remains, did Trump’s attorneys have the chance to see that post before he pushed “send”? Did anybody above the age of 14? Does anybody honestly think had his attorneys seen it, they’d have said, “Yes, Mr. President, we think that’s a really swell post; put that jazz up ASAP”? Does Donald Trump have a moral obligation to listen to his attorneys if they didn’t? Well, when you consider that his working-class supporters, through their small-dollar donations, are picking up his attorneys’ bills, I’d say he has some sense of obligation to try to help them win their case. I mean, good God, people.

What are we doing? The man isn’t somebody you would hire to do a really big and important job like running the largest hotel conglomerate in the world, based on his Truth Social posts alone. Well, we’re also not supposed to re-hire him to run the largest corporation in the history of the world, either. Not at this point. Not after what happened the last time.

I can anticipate the Trump swarm coming down on that statement and asking, what about what happened last time? He had the greatest economy in history, the cheapest gas ever, no world wars, et cetera, et cetera. Fine, but he also shut down the economy and took the repeated advice of two of the most destructive public health bureaucrats in the country, if not the world. Their advice led to some of the most profoundly destructive economic and social impacts the world has seen in decades, if not in a century.

I truly think we need to go back to Herbert Hoover signing the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act in 1930, which caused the Great Depression, to find an equivalent level of presidential mistake.

President Trump agreed to shut down the U.S. economy because of a healthcare panic; the most important, dynamic, complex, and successful market economy on the planet, due to a bad virus, was Hooverian in its depths of disastrousness. And this, of course, also resulted in other developed economies following suit, some even more violent economically and socially than we did. I don’t think that is a hyperbolic statement. I think it is a fair and accurate statement.

Let’s be brutally clear. Hoover’s well-intended but wrongheaded policy caused the Great Depression, and we know how that all went. Equally true, Trump’s well-intended but wrongheaded policy caused untold pain, suffering, and misery, not to mention bankruptcies, foreclosures, suicides, and premature deaths. It also wiped out a crucial block of irreplaceable time for in-person instruction for tens of millions of American kids, the full ramifications of which we’ll not sustain for about a decade.

Trump has disqualified himself from ever being elected president again simply by virtue of that single, solitary decision while in office. And this I believe in the marrow of my bones.



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To: SeekAndFind

“Trump has disqualified himself from ever being elected president again simply by virtue of that single, solitary decision while in office”

Where is that in the constitution?


21 posted on 08/05/2023 7:18:51 PM PDT by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: Nifster

And ic he hadn’t and millions died then he would be lambasted for that

We demand presidents be perfect. And then wonder why they aren’t

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Trump had the right instinct on covid, but he was soon drowned out by the “he’s not taking it seriously, crowd.”
That crowd included the whole globe, as information/propaganda was used to herd sheep in the authoritarian direction.

The Free Republic virus revisionists should go back and read the hysteria on this forum.

It was pathetic.


22 posted on 08/05/2023 7:19:21 PM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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I see “Manic Contrarian” has to hide behind a pseudonym.


23 posted on 08/05/2023 7:21:01 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SeekAndFind

The hate and ingratitude are strong in this one.


24 posted on 08/05/2023 7:22:56 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: SeekAndFind
Trump has disqualified himself from ever being elected president again simply by virtue of that single, solitary decision while in office. And this I believe in the marrow of my bones.

Well then add DeSantis to the disqualification list, too. Trump's ill advised "strong recommendation" to shutdown wasn't mandatory.

DeSantis is responsible for his own decision to have a mandatory shutdown of Florida. He didn't have to do it. There were seven state governors who decided not to shutdown their states. DeSantis wasn't one of those seven.

25 posted on 08/05/2023 7:24:33 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: SeekAndFind

At the time, he trusted supposed expert who told us Captain Tripps had come and we’re all would die.

It was a reasonable decision, short term.

After not that long, he should have fired everyone, as they were clearly liars.


26 posted on 08/05/2023 7:24:35 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This was at the bottom of the puke's insane creed.
Manic Contrarian is a bleeding-heart conservative affiliated with several industry and public policy trade groups, including California Center for Public Policy and Heartland Action. He's also a recovering politician and a defender of freedom. You can follow him on Twitter at @ManicContrarian
President Trump must be sent back to the White House if only because this vile turd felt entiled to write this filth.   I cannot wait to see if he lives up to his bleeding-heart conservative moniker in real life.
27 posted on 08/05/2023 7:24:36 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: SeekAndFind

F you pansy ass Never Trump Pieces of Human Excrement.


28 posted on 08/05/2023 7:28:46 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: SeekAndFind

Why post this garbage?


29 posted on 08/05/2023 7:31:49 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SeekAndFind
“IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU!”

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the rules of the children's game of Tag?

-PJ

30 posted on 08/05/2023 7:39:12 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: SeekAndFind

My Friends, this is 4D Chess again.

WHY did Trump go off and say that in ALL CAPS?

Because he knew they would go after him in court about it, and of course, if you don’t remember a TON of D’s on on record saying they would GO AFTER TRUMP.

So, then he will yet again show how they charge him, while doing the same thing only worse and before he did it.

Game. Set. Match.


31 posted on 08/05/2023 8:15:37 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: unclebankster

Yes, it was Mother Abigail all over again.

We were all gonna die!

Feb -April 2020.

All that happened is we ran out of toilet paper for a few weeks.

The real villains were putting the Covid sick into grandpa and grandma’s nursing homes, arresting people for going outside without a mask, and taping off half of Walmart.


32 posted on 08/05/2023 8:52:48 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Herodes

Yup, read two articles of theirs tonight and both are BS. Thought I was reading the NYT or WaPo or listening to Schumer of Cheney. They are no longer worth my time.


33 posted on 08/05/2023 8:57:35 PM PDT by falcon99 ( )
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To: llmc1

Troll!!!!!!


34 posted on 08/05/2023 9:29:16 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: SeekAndFind

“You’re fired!”

There’s a video of Trump saying that to numerous people.


35 posted on 08/05/2023 9:36:47 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (“Miserably inadequate” people generally vote Democratic.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“I truly think we need to go back to Herbert Hoover signing the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act in 1930, which caused the Great Depression, to find an equivalent level of presidential mistake.”

The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act was a mistake since the US ran a trade surplus back then.

But the Great Depression was a natural follow-on to the fact that people who recently bought new radios, new cars and new mansions did not need to buy more.

The 1920s boom was followed by the 1930s bust.

Unemployed people took money out of their banks to pay their bills, and the banks got that money by calling in loans.


36 posted on 08/05/2023 9:52:07 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (“Miserably inadequate” people generally vote Democratic.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, Mr. Manic Contrarian, it would be nice to know what PDJT was responding to with his controversial post that made Jack Smith clutch his pearls and go tattling to the federal judge. You somehow omitted it. So here it is:

Source: https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1687574090821877760

Text:
Rick Wilson
@TheRickWilson

“We’re coming after you, @realDonaldTrump
. We’re going to break you, humiliate you, defeat you at the ballot box, shatter your movement. You’ll spend your sorry last years weeping in a lonely prison cell, your hideous legacy a warning to future generations, your shame eternal.”

To which PDJT replied:

“IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU!”


37 posted on 08/05/2023 9:56:40 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“President Trump agreed to shut down the U.S. economy because of a healthcare panic; the most important, dynamic, complex, and successful market economy on the planet, due to a bad virus, was Hooverian in its depths of disastrousness. And this, of course, also resulted in other developed economies following suit,”

Countries and in the US most states looked to and partially followed the Chinese shutdown model.


38 posted on 08/05/2023 9:57:20 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (“Miserably inadequate” people generally vote Democratic.)
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To: Captain Rhino

Rick Wilson - Lincoln Project guy

Just follow the yellow brick road, the wizard will fix you up - need a brain? need a heart?


39 posted on 08/05/2023 10:02:13 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (“Miserably inadequate” people generally vote Democratic.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who wrote this, Judas Pence?


40 posted on 08/05/2023 10:05:27 PM PDT by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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