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The colourful Twitter history of Palestine (Stealing Jewish-Palestine history 1920s-1930s as if it was "arab")
David Collier ^ | Aug 1, 2023

Posted on 08/01/2023 6:04:08 PM PDT by Freeleesy

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anti-Zionism, antisemitism, BDS, Conflict history, Media Bias, The I/P conflict

The colourful Twitter history of Palestine

Social media sites such as Twitter portray a wonderful history of a state called Palestine – but first let us quickly remember the truth.

The historical facts:

For the Islamic world, the area of 19th century Southern Syria was a sparsely populated forgotten backwater with rival clans and nomadic tribes presenting a hazardous obstacle for every trip. The weakening of the occupying power (the Ottoman Empire) and growing global trade – resurrected European interest. It was Christian travellers recognising this area as their ‘Holy Land’ that put an anglicised version of the name given to it by occupying Roman forces – ‘Palestine’ – firmly back on the map.

European Christian and Zionist investment increased opportunity, and immigrants (mostly Muslims from the collapsing Ottoman Empire) began to flood into the forgotten backwater. This time period culminated in ‘Palestine’ being used as the name for the British Mandate, awarded to Britain by the League of Nations to resurrect the Jewish homeland.

‘Palestine’ was never anything but a name of European imperial colonial conquest (Greek, Roman, Crusader and then British). Even the root derives from the ‘Philistines’ – European Invaders from the Aegean. This is why when Arabs bringing Islam had invaded and colonised the area they didn’t adopt it, and even local usage soon fell out of favour. ‘Palestine’ was not native to the land and had no meaning at all to Muslims. It remained just Christian terminology for the Holy Land – the Jewish ‘Land of Israel’.

The anti-Zionist problem

This may all sound cold and heartless on the notion of a ‘Palestinian identity’ but it remains the historical truth.

None of this helps the anti-Israel crowd that is desperate to argue that Jews came and took over a prosperous land full of indigenous Palestinian people who had lived there as a nation for millennia. As Zionism rose – Muslim interest in the area simply rose to oppose it. They had no interest until the Jews sought to reclaim the land. The Christian world divided – with supersessionists seeing the rebirth of Israel as a direct threat to their own theology – while most Christians saw natural support for Zionism in their bibles. What had been a forgotten backwater was suddenly the most important thing in everyone’s heart.

Even the precious Dome of the Rock and Al Aqsa (‘Haram al-Sharif’) built on the Jewish Temple Mount had been left to waste away. Don’t take it from me. This is from the Jordanian Royal website which explains that it was the Zionist ‘threat’ that made them wake up – and led to the 1922 restoration of these holy sites that turned them from decaying relics into the iconic images we all know so well today:

But the anti-Jewish movement still needed a banner to gather around and in time, Arab – Soviet anti-Zionist mythology created the ‘Palestinian’ in order to do battle with Israel. They then set about rewriting history, both by belittling Jewish ties to the Land of Israel and embedding a narrative of the indigenous Palestinian hero/victim.

The Twitter history of the Palestinians

When your truth is rooted in historicity, the rest is easy. You have nothing to fear, and your role is to educate those around you. With the anti-Zionists- the opposite is true. Education is the enemy – and so they rely on distortions, outliers, misinformation, fake news, and ignorance to help spread their ‘word’. The result is that an army of anti-Israel activists base their ‘truth’ on a mountain of nothing but lies.

This is easily shown by turning to social media. Here are some examples of how ignorant anti-Zionist history is. As each of these examples have been used 1000s of times (with many of them receiving millions of views) I thought I would present them here – along with the truth behind the image:

Palestine Airways

These tweets hold up the ‘Palestine Airways’ plane as evidence of Palestinian life ‘before the Zionists arrived’:

Palestine Airways - twitter history

That plane actually has ‘the Land of Israel airlines’ written across it in Hebrew. Palestine Airways was a company founded by a Zionist Jew Pinhas Rutenberg, and in conjunction with both the Histadrut and the Jewish Agency in the British Mandate of Palestine. It was a ‘Jewish aviation company’ that had trouble maintaining its service due to Arab violence against Jews.

Qalandia / Jerusalem / Atarot airport.

This one is sinister. These tweets reference Zionist ‘theft’ and the ‘Nakba’ using an image of the Palestinian airport near Jerusalem:

In 1924 a military airstrip was built by the British Government on land owned by the local Jewish settlement ‘Atarot’, displacing part of the Jewish settlement in the process. In 1931 the British expropriated additional land from Atarot to expand the airport – demolishing homes and agricultural fields in the process. On top of this ‘Jewish’ land – the British built their airport. In 1948 the Jordanian Army looted and burned down the rest of the village – ethnically cleansing the residents. Only the Jews have been victims of war crimes and ‘theft’ here. Perversely this land is now considered ‘occupied Palestinian territory’.

Tourism and visiting Palestine

Sometimes, the appropriation of the Jewish story in ‘Palestine’ (the Arabs wanted little to do with it) by anti-Zionists brings about side-splitting moments. The ‘visit Palestine’ tourism posters provide such an opportunity. In the tweet on the left is a screenshot from a PRESSTV (Iranian mouthpiece) interview with Shahd Abusalama – a key figure in the UKs anti-Israel activist circle. Abusalama actually has the poster on her wall.

The image in the post was created in 1936 by a Jew named Franz Krausz and published by a Zionist Development Agency. Krausz, who fled Europe during Hitler’s rise, designed a variety of posters for Zionist groups encouraging Jewish tourism and immigration to the Land of Israel.

The British mandate government

The League of Nations Mandate to recreate the Jewish homeland was awarded to Great Britain who set about putting in place the trappings of government – and in 1927 the British decided to create a currency for the area.. This all provides material for people who set out to deceive. Probably the most well-known of these examples is the image of the coin with Palestine written on it. Displayed as proof that ‘Palestine existed’ – these images have been shared millions of times across social media platforms:

coins palestine - twitter history

The coin has ‘Palestina’ written in Hebrew, and more importantly contains in brackets the Hebrew letters ‘Aleph’ and ‘Yud’ – the abbreviation of ‘Eretz Yisrael’ (the Land of Israel) and part of the mandate’s official title when written in Hebrew.

The British also issued postage stamps:

The anti-Zionist lies do not come out of thin air. These lies are what these people are taught. In Palestinian schools, textbooks were found in which the Hebrew had been digitally removed from images of the stamps. What makes it even worse is that these were used inside UN schools funded by the west:

One of the funniest of these examples is this one. They even went for the manholes:

Manhole Cover - Zionist - Twitter history lesson

In the image, which reads ‘Government of Palestine P.W.D Haifa District’ are two giveaways. The first is the Hebrew writing in the top right which spells out ‘Kremener’. The second is the logo underneath.. Alexander Kremener was a German Jew who had fled Hitler in 1933. These were made by a company owned and run by Zionist Jews.

British documents

Some even try to use an image of official British documents to prove that ‘Palestine’ existed. These literally have the words ‘British’ plastered throughout. First there is this British Passport:

And then the British driving licence:

The Palestine Football team

Another much used (and funny) example is the idea that the imaginary state of Palestine had a football team:

The team sent to Australia in 1939 was the Maccabi Tel Aviv side – with a few players taken from other local Jewish teams to legitimise the use of ‘Palestine’:

This from the Daily Telegraph, 3 June 1939:

The emblems of the modern identity

Far too many just do not understand the history. 4400+ retweets and half a million views just for posting an image of this flag with the words ‘Palestine will be free’:

The history of this flag only goes back 59 years. It was adopted by the Palestine Liberation Organisation in 1964 as a symbol for the liberation of Palestine at a time when all of Judea, Samaria (the West Bank of the River Jordan) and Gaza was in Arab hands. Which means this 1964 flag was born as a symbol for the total destruction of Israel.

The absence of real history does lead to absurdity. In 2021 the Palestinians ‘lowered‘ the flag as an act of mourning for the Balfour Declaration – that took place 47 years before the flag had even been invented.

Twitter history – ‘Free Palestine’

And finally, there is the outline of the ‘state’ itself. With half a million views and almost 5000 retweets, this one sure is popular. It is a map of the ‘Palestine’ that anti-Israel activists want to be ‘free’:

Twitter history - map of Palestine

This map did not exist until the 20th century when colonial powers drew it. It is a map created to facilitate the rebirth of the ancient Jewish homeland. The only thing that differentiates an Arab in Akko from an Arab in Southern Lebanon, or Syria or Jordan, is a colonial pen.

When the Muslims last had control (this from 1899) this is what the map looked like – with the entire area split into Ottoman administrative areas:

Twitter lesson map

It was the colonial powers that drew the new lines. Adding space (the deserts) south of their Holy Land in order to give the Jewish homeland some ‘depth’. In the end the British chopped it up anyway – and gave away some of the Holy Land to create Trans-Jordan (now Jordan).

When they hold up the ‘free Palestine’ map they are worshipping a colonial construct.

There is nothing authentic about their argument at all.

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1 posted on 08/01/2023 6:04:08 PM PDT by Freeleesy
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Thanks David.

2 posted on 08/01/2023 6:04:51 PM PDT by Freeleesy
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Great article. Just one correction, Islam is not “monotheistic.” How many names for Allah are on the Kaaba? Thanks for posting.
3 posted on 08/01/2023 6:11:44 PM PDT by Fungi
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1939 Larousse dictionary

" Police Agree Arab Illegal Immigrants Match Jews Fifty to One", The Canadian Jewish Chronicle, Oct 19, 1945

"JERUSALEM (JPS-Palcor) — Assistant Superintendent of Police, Matthews, a Briton, confirmed charges by Jews that every Jew crossing the Syrian-Lebanese frontiers into Palestine, fifty Arabs have entered the country without permission.

Mr. Matthews confirmed the Jewish charges at a conference attended by him, of Jordan Valley settlers and Assistant District Commissioner J. F. Cornes at Safad. The settlers pointed out that the Trans-Jordan Frontier Force, comprised mainly of Arabs, made no effort to halt the engaging in provocative acts against Jews crossing the frontier and Jewish settlers in Galilee."


Sheree Roth, Were the Arabs Indigenous to Mandatory Palestine?, 'Middle East Quarterly, Fall 2016. "...most of today's Arabic-speakers do not trace their roots back for centuries...Arabs Attracted to Jewish Settled Areas."

"Reuters Parrots Palestinian Historical Revisionism in Archaeology Report", by Chaim Lax, HonestReporting, July 25, 2023

the fly in the ointment for both Al-A’utul and Abu Reida’s claims is that these tombs predate the Palestinians and are entirely unrelated to Gaza’s current inhabitants.

According to a 2014 historical survey in Haaretz, the Gaza of Roman times was inhabited by a diverse population of Jews, Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Persians and Bedouin.

Notice who’s missing?

The Palestinians didn’t reside in Roman Gaza because there weren’t any Palestinians yet.

The Palestinians claim to trace their heritage back to the Muslim Arab conquest of the region in 637 C.E., hundreds of years after these ancient tombs would have been sealed.

By ludicrously alleging that these tombs are evidence for 2000 years of Palestinian history and that they also serve as a refutation of long-standing Jewish ties to the region, Al-A’utul and Abu Reida are not only distorting history in the service of modern-day politics but are also calling into question the integrity of any academic archaeological work that is conducted in the Hamas-administered coastal enclave.

4 posted on 08/01/2023 6:23:25 PM PDT by Freeleesy
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I am sorry, but this article avoids the main question: what was the population of the territory of the Palestinian Mandate? Looking at the population figures we find the following:


Even without being a distinct nationality from the other surrounding Arabs, the Arabs in Palestine have the same rights as the Jewish population in the area. The existence, or non-existence, of a "Palestinian nation" is not the issue. This is just legalism. One may truly regret it, but this land has had a Muslim/Arab majority since the end of the 12th century. This is not "anti-Zionist" propaganda but just demographic history.

5 posted on 08/01/2023 8:18:08 PM PDT by Petrosius
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Palestine. (1946). United States: American Zionist Council.., p. 71.
The Palestine press reports a constant influx of illegal Arab immigrants from neighboring lands.
"Zionist menace" notwithstanding, Palestine's higher wage level and general development attract citizens of the large and decidedly underpopulated Arab states. It is significant that King Abdullah of Transjordan is reported by a Palestine Arab paper to have issued an order permitting free immigration of Arabs, particularly Bedouin tribes, with a view to overcoming the present sparsity of population. Palestine apparently has no need to issue orders permitting free Arab immigration.


Israel and the Arab States: The Issues in Dispute : Israel's Frontiers : the Status of Jerusalem : the Arab Refugees. (1951), p. 18.

Representative American Speeches, 1941-1942. (1952). United States: H.W. Wilson, p. 138.
Approximately 100,000 illegal Arab immigrants to Palestine also fled, but were not accepted by their countries of origin and have now joined the ranks of the bona fide refugees..


Bangor Daily News, Apr 28, 1978, 14.

One of the key Arab arguments today against Israel is their claim that the West had "given" the Jews Palestine, a so-called Arab country, by supporting the UN resolution of November 1947 to divide the country in two. This was done, they say, as a sop for their consciences over the slaughter of 6 million Jews in Europe by the Nazis, but was unfair to the Arabs, who had nothing to do with the Holocaust.

I believe the Palestinian Arabs are more culpable in the extermination of the Jews of Europe than is generally known, and that furthermore to their complicity in this crime, they inherited it as well.

(1) In 1939, in the wake of the Munich sell-out of Czechoslovakia, the British, reneging on their solemn commitment under the League of Nations mandate for Palestine to encourage the Jewish National Home in Palestine, published a "White Paper" sharply restricting future Jewish immigration into Palestine. This was meant to appease the Arabs of Palestine, the great majority of whom were themselves immigrants or sons and grandsons of immigrants who came to partake of the newly- engendered prosperity the Jews had brought that benighted land.

While the gates were kept shut in the faces of the Jews desperately trying to save themselves from Nazi barbarism, the Palestinian Arabs' recognized leader, Haj Amin el Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, was doing his part.

He spent World War II in Nazi Germany, propagandizing, raising bosnian SS divisions, and hob-nobbing.. And what did he demand, and get? That Germany "do all that is necessary to prohibit the emigration of Jews to Palestine" (letter to Heinrich Himmler). There is evidence that he even visited Auschwitz, to enjoy the sights. At the same time, innumerable non- Palestinian Arabs immigrated without hindrance to Palestine to work at the docks, oil refinery, etc. I suppose that many of them are today "Palestinian refugees." If only a small percentage of those doomed European Jews had found succor in Palestine, they would have become a majority, as the League of Nations Mandate had envisaged.

(2) Murderous pogroms against helpless Jews were carried out during World War II in such Arab countries as Libya and Iraq. We can well ask just how it was to be a Jew in an Arab land, when we realize that more Jews from Arab lands fled to fledgling Israel than came from Europe, and. that they were more numerous than the Palestinian Arab refugees of 1948 (whose brethren consistently refused to help them financially).

(3) Many Arabs actively supported the Nazi effort in the Middle East. A pro-Nazi coup was foiled in Iraq in 1941, and Sadat of Egypt was imprisoned as a Nazi collaborator. An extremely high percentage of Palestinian Jews joined the British army.
An extremely high percentage of Palestinian Jews joined the British Army. The ironic rewards: today there are a score of independent Arab nations, with over 5 million square miles, whereas the Jews have had to fight alone for 30 continuous years to hold on to its tiny land.

(4) The West did not give the Jews Israel. When the Arabs rejected the UN partition resolution, the Jews literally had to fight for physical survival no less than to keep their new country alive. 
The titular head of the Arab world at the time, Azzam Posha, Secretary-General of the Arab League, told the press, "This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongol massacres";  and this, less than three years after the crematoria of Auschwitz had stopped belching their horrid smoke!


Medoff, R. (1997). Zionism and the Arabs: an American Jewish dilemma, 1898-1948. United Kingdom: Bloomsbury Academic, p. 43.
American Zionists were correct that Jewish development of Palestine was benefitting Arabs as well as Jews ; the large influx of illegal Arab immigrants was proof of that.


Brog, D. (2017). Reclaiming Israel's History: Roots, Rights, and the Struggle for Peace. United States: Regnery Publishing. Ch. 3. 'The Jews Come Home. 'Arab Population Growth'.
During the period of the mandate, the country had absorbed an estimated 100,000 legal and illegal Arab immigrants and their offspring


Edelheit, A. J. (2019). The Yishuv In The Shadow Of The Holocaust: Zionist Politics And Rescue Aliya, 1933-1939. United States: Taylor & Francis, p. 139.
Indeed, Shertok argued that the British had created an artificial labor shortage in Palestine that could be solved only by employing Arab labor.” In turn, the higher standard of living that Palestine's Arab population enjoyed attracted large numbers of illegal Arab immigrants.


Shield of David: The Story of Israel’s Armed Forces. (2019). (n.p.): Plunkett Lake Press. Ch. 3, 'Haganah Takes Root'.
... The trouble was certainly due, in part, to the hundreds of 'illegal' Arab immigrants who had poured into Palestine in 1935..


Harrison, B. (2020). Blaming the Jews: Politics and Delusion. United States: Indiana University Press, p. 176.
Even so, Bachi, using official records, reports that the Palestinian police actually discovered and expelled nine hundred illegal Arab immigrants per year during the years 1931–45.


Lissak, R. S. (2021). When and How the Arabs and Muslims Immigrated to the Land of Israel—Period of British Rule, 1918–1948: Volume Two. United Kingdom: Xlibris US.
The Palestinian National Movement and its Palestine Authority aim to rewrite the history of the Land of Israel. They have developed several agendas about the history of the country.

One agenda claims that they are the ancient population of the country they call Falstin (Palestine). The other claims said they settled in the country in 640; they have a history of 1,381 years...

But the historical facts tell a different story. This book is the second volume of When and How the Arabs and Muslims Immigrated to the Land of Israel. The first volume deals with 640–1914 and brings evidence that most Palestinians are descendants of immigrants who came to the country from Arab and Muslim countries in small numbers during a slow process over hundreds of years; and between the end of the nineteenth century and First World War, their number grew by immigrant workers.
This volume brings evidence that under the British Mandate rule (1918–1948), waves of Arab/Muslim immigrant workers entered the country illegally because of the British policy to ignore illegal immigration. The British mandate government actually ordered the Transjordan army responsible for controlling the borders to ignore illegal immigration.

Also, the British Army brought Arab workers from Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon to build and work in their camps. The economic and employment opportunities created by the Zionist Movement, Jewish investors and immigrants, Christian organizations, and the British Mandate in the Land of Israel drew an increasing number of Arab immigrant workers. These opportunities were much better than those they had in their home countries.


(New Arab immigrants:

Dangers of a Palestinian State. (2002). Israel: Gefen Publishing House, p. 134.
Already wide evidence exists of tens of thousands of illegal Arab immigrants into the country , who are aided and sheltered by the Arab citizens of Israel. Therefore, any solution of the Palestinian problem ...
-- ongoing problem..)
6 posted on 08/01/2023 10:08:47 PM PDT by Freeleesy
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Re: Petrosius.

The pause by Jews from being the majority... this does not justifying any link to any group of immigrants just because they are also Arab or and Muslim.

7 posted on 08/01/2023 10:15:18 PM PDT by Freeleesy
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All your quotes ignore the fact that the Jewish population is also made up of immigrants. If the Arab population is to be considered illegitimate because it is made up of recent immigrants, should not the same be said of the Jewish population?

In the end this is all academic. Whatever was the nature of the founding of the State of Israel, it is now a fact and is not going anywhere. Likewise, it is also a fact that in the territories controlled by Israel nearly half the population is Arab and it, too, is not going anywhere.

The reality is that both the Israelis and the Palestinians are operating under the same assumption: that they have the sole legitimate claim to the territory. The dream of either side of the ethnic cleansing of the territory is not going to happen. Neither will the Jews be driven into the sea nor will the Arabs be driven across the Jordan. Both sides need to accept the reality that the territory is occupied by a mixed Jewish and Arab population.

I can see only three possible solutions: 1) two states with one for the Jewish population and one for the Arab, 2) a single state with equal rights for both populations, or 3) the Swiss model of a single state as a confederation of cantons for each population. I will not opine which would be best. This needs to be worked out between the parties. But the present status quo is unjust to the Arab population and is unstable. The Israelis need to give up the idea that they can have the land without the people; and the Arabs need to give up the idea that they can go back to the status quo ante of an overwhelming Arab majority over the whole land.

8 posted on 08/02/2023 4:19:59 AM PDT by Petrosius
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"I can see only three possible solutions: 1) two states with one for the Jewish population and one for the Arab"

Wasn't Jordan the original Arab state?

9 posted on 08/02/2023 5:04:49 AM PDT by Flag_This
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Re Petrosius Of course most Jewish returnees are "immigrants" coming back to their historic homeland which was even before Arab immigrants Flooded in. So what?
10 posted on 08/02/2023 5:11:32 AM PDT by Freeleesy
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Wasn't Jordan the original Arab state?

Jordan is a state for the population living in Jordan. The question is what to do for the Arabs that presently live in the area controlled by Israel? Are you suggesting that Israel cede the areas with an Arab population to Jordan?

Israelis have to accept that the Arabs are not going to leave any more that the Jews are going to leave. There needs to be justice for both populations that are living, and will continue to live, in the territory.

11 posted on 08/02/2023 5:14:46 AM PDT by Petrosius
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“Wasn’t Jordan the original Arab state?”



But it’s about anti-Jewish drive, as there is no such thibg as “pro Palestinian” in reality. It goes only as far as damning Israel, in propaganda and on the ground.

If there will be one more Arab state called Palestine, it won’t be because the Arabs deserve it, but for those that believe it might bring peace.

Do you really think that militants will ever give up wiping off Israel even after another Arab State in the region?

12 posted on 08/02/2023 5:16:42 AM PDT by Freeleesy
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To: Petrosius

Jordan is a state for the population living in Jordan


Most Jordanians are “Palestinian”

13 posted on 08/02/2023 5:18:03 AM PDT by Freeleesy
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Of course most Jewish returnees are "immigrants" coming back to their historic homeland which was even before Arab immigrants Flooded in. So what?

The same can then be said about the Arab population: Of course most of the Arabs are immigrants migrating into a territory which has had a majority Arab population for centuries. So what? Why are Jewish immigrants legitimate but Arab one are not?

14 posted on 08/02/2023 5:18:58 AM PDT by Petrosius
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Is Jordan hiding how many Palestinians are in the country?
Ynetnews, Dec 1, 2016,7340,L-4751617,00.html


A Palestinian-Jordanian confederation

Uri Savir, Jan 10, 2013 — About 70 percent of Jordan’s population is of Palestinian origin...

15 posted on 08/02/2023 5:23:57 AM PDT by Freeleesy
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To: Petrosius

Are you denying Jewish history in Israel befoe Arabs’ invasion?

16 posted on 08/02/2023 5:25:38 AM PDT by Freeleesy
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Good article. Much of it posted here in the past but nice to have in one place. I'd add that the Palestine football team invited Arabs to participate but they refused. And then there's the Palestine Post, later renamed Jerusalem Post, hardly an Arab paper. And the Anglo-Palestine Bank, renamed Bank Leumi.

17 posted on 08/02/2023 5:26:21 AM PDT by SJackson (All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism)
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“Are you denying Jewish history in Israel before Arabs’ invasion?”


It seens so, in his long wording senseless gibberish. Which is why, ignore Pestrosius.

18 posted on 08/02/2023 5:31:29 AM PDT by Conservat1
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Found this: RESEARCH: "Palestinians" = Arab immigrants' children / Desolate land pre increased Jewish return
19 posted on 08/02/2023 5:33:57 AM PDT by Conservat1
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20 posted on 08/02/2023 5:35:45 AM PDT by Conservat1
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