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FREEDOM, DEMOKRASI AND CIVILISED HUMANITY - Mary Baker Eddy - Strong Clear Faith
freedom-demokrasi-and-civilised-humanity ^ | 16th July, 2023, American time | Ozguy1945

Posted on 07/16/2023 4:39:57 PM PDT by Ozguy1945

Mary Baker Eddy's religious clarity in English is beautiful:

"True prayer is not asking God for love; it is learning to love, and to include all mankind in one affection. Prayer is the utilization of the love wherewith He loves us."

"Reject hatred without hating."

Mary Baker Eddy's religious clarity in English is beautiful:

"True prayer is not asking God for love; it is learning to love, and to include all mankind in one affection. Prayer is the utilization of the love wherewith He loves us."

"Reject hatred without hating."

"Home is the dearest spot on earth, and it should be the centre, but not the boundary, of the affections."

God Bless Faith

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To: Jess Kitting
The concept of omnipresence is not well-defined, which makes it prone to various interpretations.

The word itself is not in the Bible. It crept into Christian mythology somewhere along the way.

Hence, we have people like Mary Baker Eddy seeking to "clarify" it in her own way and leading people astray.

41 posted on 07/16/2023 6:39:08 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Ozguy1945

I’ve been exposed to some of her writings. Reminds me of the language of art critics — lots of fancy words, very little said.


42 posted on 07/16/2023 6:40:37 PM PDT by hiho hiho
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To: TBP
As I posted above, “there is no spot where God is not.”

That's interesting. (I'm not sure what you're driving at.) Is God in hell?

43 posted on 07/16/2023 6:42:31 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: boatbums

One place I part company with them is the belief that the material world is not real. As Holmes said, it is “as real as it’s supposed to be.” It is real; it is no the ultimate reality. It’s fact, but not capital-T Truth.

I got in a discussion with some Christian Scientists once and we got around to the issue of why they don’t drink. They said that putting alcohol in your body clouds the mind.

“But if the body’s not real,” I asked, “what does it matter what I put into it?”


44 posted on 07/16/2023 6:42:41 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Ozguy1945

The most heinous aspect of Christian Science: Eddy teaches that, as Christians, Christian Scientists are forgiven and perfect. Therefore Christian Scientist don’t need to be forgiven.

I have yet to meet a perfect Christian. That’s why we are Christians. This is not that difficult.


45 posted on 07/16/2023 6:46:06 PM PDT by nagant (`)
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To: Jonty30

I utterly disagree with your position.

What is “not of God’s creation”? Who or what else is there to create? If there were more than one Creative Power, then the Universe would be chaos to the point of non-functionality and self-destruction.

Your +1 argument is invalid because, by definition, you cannot add to Infinity.

Of course God is inside the material of the universe. How could that not be so? To suggest otherwise is to suggest that we are NOT made of the stuff of God, that we are not God’s image and likeness.

Every cell, every atom, every quark, is Divine Energy vibrating at a unique level. And it is entangled with everything else. Quantum theory taught us that much.


46 posted on 07/16/2023 6:53:56 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: nagant

I'm certainly not trying to impose my own religious beliefs on anyone else, but some time ago, when searching for another book on Amazon, I came across this book relating to Christian Science, and it just now occurred to me that some folks here, who may be currently involved with that particular group, might be interested in reading it.


      

47 posted on 07/16/2023 6:55:14 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Jess Kitting
God could be at a call center in India

Yes, and everywhere else, too.

48 posted on 07/16/2023 6:55:36 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: nagant

CS, as I understand it, does neither of those things.


49 posted on 07/16/2023 6:56:36 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP

Infinity +1 exists. Unless God is constantly gaining power, my being is always infinite +1. if God makes himself infinite +1, my guy is now infinite +2.

God is not inside the matter of the universe, that’s how a pantheist or pagan will think. He created the matter, but the matter does not have God in it.

The idea that God is inside matter is at the root of liberalism. Liberals think they can change reality just by passing new laws.


50 posted on 07/16/2023 6:57:54 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: Jonty30

But that’s the point. It is not possible to conceive of a being that can do more than God can do, because God, being Infinite, can do anything and everything.


51 posted on 07/16/2023 6:58:08 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: nagant

You’ve distorted their teaching.


52 posted on 07/16/2023 6:58:57 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Jess Kitting

Short answer: Yes.


53 posted on 07/16/2023 6:59:35 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Jonty30

By definition, infinity being all that there is, infinity+1 cannot exist.


54 posted on 07/16/2023 7:01:18 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Jonty30

If matter “does not have God in it,” then, given that God created it and had nothing but God to work from, what can it be made of, then?


55 posted on 07/16/2023 7:02:51 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: metmom

Bingo. All throughout scripture the righteous was called to point out heretical, wrong teachings. Were those people perfect, no, except for Jesus of course. But they/we have to regardless.


56 posted on 07/16/2023 7:02:51 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: TBP

My guy is infinity +1. What are you going to do about it?

My point is that when we use words, you have to keep in mind the context of the words. God is not omnipresent in a strict sense that He’s on every single sub-atomic particle, but He’s omnipresent enough to hear us out individually 8 billion times simultaneously, as well as the possible until trillions of beings that inhabit this universe. If we call out to him at any point, all 8 billion humans and untold trillions in Creation, He hears us. The idea of unlimitedness is not meant to be in the most literal sense


57 posted on 07/16/2023 7:04:47 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: TBP

If inanimate material contains God’s presence, then it must be worshipped.

Otherwise it is made of matter that God created but does not have God’s presence in it.


58 posted on 07/16/2023 7:06:12 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: TBP

So, if we go to hell, we can be in His presence?


59 posted on 07/16/2023 7:23:50 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: nagant
Eddy teaches that, as Christians, Christian Scientists are forgiven and perfect.

Anyone that says they are perfect has just presented immutable evidence that they are not. I vaguely recall that Mark Twain hated her guts.......don't know where I got that, probably from P.J. Farmer's Riverworld books, where Twain was a main character.

60 posted on 07/16/2023 7:36:27 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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