Stone Says Trump Told Him the JFK Files Were “Horrible”

Independent Sentinel ^ | By M Dowling - July 4, 2023

[Red Badger]

Roger Stone was on Jack Posobiec’s show with stories about the JFK assassination. He discussed his theory that Lee Harvey Oswald did not shoot Kennedy and that the Mafia was involved. One thing that did strike a chord is when he said that then-President Trump saw the classified files and told him, “I can’t tell you it’s so horrible. You wouldn’t believe it.”

Jack Posobiec interviewed Roger Stone about the JFK assassination. Roger Stone wrote an entire book about the investigation. JACK POSOBIEC: Joe Biden “has extended the classification of files regarding the JFK assassination, but what many people may not realize is that Roger Stone wrote an entire book all about the investigation and what really happened. And we’ve got him here for the Sunday special…what’s the latest? What are the files that Biden has classified, and why are they continuing to hold this back?,” Posobiec asked.

ROGER STONE: “In 1978, the Congress … the House Intelligence Select Committee on Assassinations and the purpose of it was to reexamine the assassinations of not only President John F Kennedy but also Doctor Martin Luther King. ..most of the people staffing that committee had come from the investigation of organized crime.

“On the one hand, they debunked the Warren Commission theory that Oswald was a lone gunman, a communist acting alone. They declared that organized crime was involved in the murder of Kennedy, but then they went no further. In other words, they left us hanging on the rest at that time.

“They passed a law that said some 25 years later, all of the documents pertaining to the murder of JFK would become declassified unless the President of the United States filed an objection, in which case, the President had the authority to kick the can down the road and set up a future date to reexamine and release the material.

“So in 2017, relatively early in his first term, that date rolled around, and Donald Trump was in the White House. I contacted him. I asked him what are you going to do about the JFK documents. He said, ‘What are you talking about.’ I said. ‘Well, under the assassinations records law, all this material is going to be made public unless you decide otherwise. He said, ‘Why hasn’t anyone brought this to my attention?’ I said, ‘Well, that’s really a question for your staff. Sir, but we’re only a couple of weeks away from the release date.’

He said, ‘I don’t think this is right. I said, ‘It’s definitely right. I would ask you to look into it and see what you think.’ And he came back to me about a week later, and he said, ‘Well, you’re absolutely right. This material is scheduled for declassification.’”

Trump said the intelligence agencies don’t want them released because it will possibly expose sources and methods.

“Trump did release roughly 80% of the documents, and we found out some shocking things. For example, Lee Harvey Oswald had gotten a, you know, 1099 from the FBI; that’s because he had been on their payroll. He was an informant; Lee Harvey Oswald had attended the foreign language school that is run by the Central Intelligence Agency in North Carolina. That’s how he learned to speak Russian.

“We learned about President Lyndon Johnson’s early membership in the Ku Klux Klan. That was among the documents that were included uh so there’s a lot of stuff there that historians poured through.

“There was a lot of interesting data, but even Trump held back 20% of the documents. When I had the occasion to ask him about that, I said, ‘Why didn’t you let it all out, and he said, ‘I can’t tell you it’s so horrible. You wouldn’t believe it. Someday you’ll find out. And that was the sum total of it. He didn’t want to talk about it.”

He kicked the can down the road.

If it was “so horrible,” he had a moral obligation to make it public – if it’s true.

Watch:......video at link................

[Boogieman]

“he never served in the CIA in any other capacity”

That’s the official story, sure.

But the CIA obviously does not just disclose everyone who works for them, so his and their denials aren’t really proof that he didn’t work for them.

And for contrary evidence, we now have several pieces of unclassified government documents with his name on it from the time referring to him as a CIA agent.

I’ll take verified government documents over CIA denials any day of the week, but maybe that’s just me.

[Verginius Rufus]

I think Richard Nixon was in Dallas that day...but left before the assassination took place.

I wonder if Trump was afraid that the CIA would take him out if he revealed the secrets in the documents?

[Glad2bnuts]

“They” want hell unleashed. That is my go to answer to the question, “why”?

[CA Conservative]

zapata Petroleum was founded in the early 50s. Trying to associate that with the Bay of Pigs is really reaching.

[nitzy]

Did you read the link?

You claimed that Bush was not in the CIA in the 60’s. According to J. Edgar Hoover in a memo written days after the assassination, Bush was in the CIA and in contact with Cuban affiliates.

[Fury]

Re: 24 - a moment in time picture.

It could meant something. It could mean nothing.

Is there any video of that time?

[AppyPappy]

One theory is that the bullet came from a Secret Service agent by accident

[AppyPappy]

So where is this memo?

[cgbg]

Angleton was in the pocket of Mossad.

He was the “key player”.

Nothing makes sense if you ignore this element.

[nitzy]

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bush_Sr,_JFK_-_J_Edgar_Hoover_memo_2.jpg

[Boogieman]

“I wonder if Trump was afraid that the CIA would take him out if he revealed the secrets in the documents?”

If it were me, I’d be more afraid they would “take me out” if I was the only (non-CIA) person who knew the secrets.

If I declassified them, then everyone would know and taking me out would no longer serve any purpose.

[nitzy]

I’m not ignoring it.

Just like the CIA is a tool of a larger group, so is Mossad.

[zeugma]

If it was “so horrible,” he had a moral obligation to make it public – if it’s true.

Exactly.

[GingisK]

TV cameras in those days were the size of luggage trunks.

[Albion Wilde]

Sounds like a true story. Never heard of the source.

You never heard of Roger Stone?

[Albion Wilde]

Stone in an interview about his movie JFK said that after viewings people would ... [say] that his JFK movie is what exactly happened. ... Stone [said] that the script was based on every conspiracy theory he could find on JFK assassination which he then fashioned... into a working script. I like Roger Stone movies, he employs that “been there done that” approach which lends itself to a credible storyline.

Are you conflating Oliver Stone, who did the movie JFK, with Roger Stone, old friend of DJT and subject of the opening post?

[Albion Wilde]

OK, I have read your subsequent post admitting to conflating the two Stones, so no need to reply.

[Albion Wilde]

When ancestry info is scrubbed, we are being told outright that bloodlines are key, and will in many instances remain hidden. Especially with criminals like murderers and serial killers. Because if we find out that a number of the more famous ones come from very old bloodlines, which points to fakery - then the whole cookie starts to crumble pretty fast.

I do not understand what you are trying to convey, but I would like to.

What is the significance of a long bloodline to this story?

Who scrubbed ancestry info?

Who told whom that bloodlines are key?

What fakery is pointed to, by what?

[Albion Wilde]

What do you think all those notes in envelopes said at his funeral?

LOL!

[x]

It didn’t look blurry to me

There are different versions of the photo. Some blurry, some not. Either the one on the left is a bad copy, or the one in the middle has been enhanced somehow.

I don't think it is Bush. It looks like a younger man with different facial features. In any case, one can't say it definitely is Bush.

You may have heard that Bush said he didn't remember where he was when Kennedy was assassinated, but here's something he wrote when he was in full command of his faculties:

Somebody in Tyler might be able to check this out in the newspapers of the time.