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Crisis? US Loan Demand Weakens By Most Since 2009 Financial Crisis (Bidenflation + Fed Rate Hikes = Collapsing Loan Demand)
Confounded Interest ^ | 05/15/2023 | Anthony B. Sanders

Posted on 05/15/2023 6:29:48 AM PDT by Kaiser8408a

Inflatiion Joe Biden (or Unaffordable Joe). Bidenflation has led to The Federal Reserve tightening interest rates. As I said on Stuart Varney’s show years ago, “When The Fed starts raising rates, KABOOM!”

Now we are seeing US Loan Demand weakening by the most since the 2009 financial crisis.

Then we have large/medium sized banks reporting a crash in stronger demand for C&I loans.

(Excerpt) Read more at confoundedinterest.net ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banks; biden; lending; recession
Recession Joe?
1 posted on 05/15/2023 6:29:48 AM PDT by Kaiser8408a
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To: Kaiser8408a

What is amazing is that houses in the markets we are familiar with (our own and relatives around the country) are still selling quickly and with offers or very slightly above or below asking.


2 posted on 05/15/2023 6:44:09 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else…)
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To: Kaiser8408a

“Recession Joe?”

Recession is an effect of earlier causes.

The cure is to increase the cost of borrowing in order to decrease borrowing. Weakening loan demand is a sign that the cure is working. Recession is a side effect of the cure.


3 posted on 05/15/2023 6:55:51 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: cymbeline

I take it you are a graduate of the Jimmy Carter school of economics.


4 posted on 05/15/2023 7:01:31 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: himno hero

“I take it you are a graduate of the Jimmy Carter school of economics”

Be specific.


5 posted on 05/15/2023 7:22:53 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Kaiser8408a

I thought Americans used too much credit and needed to learn to live within their means. This is from the “all economic news is bad news” world.


6 posted on 05/15/2023 7:27:24 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

3-2-1 points buydowns are widespread now allowing buyers to get lower payments while sellers hold the line on prices.

Powell didn’t count on that.


7 posted on 05/15/2023 7:34:33 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Kaiser8408a

Who is going to refinance a 3% fixed mortgage? There are now people moving and instead of selling thier old home, they are renting it out to keep that 3% mortage on their old home.


8 posted on 05/15/2023 8:22:25 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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To: cymbeline

What happened in 1981 to stop American inflationary pressures? The Carter crew crashed the global economy


9 posted on 05/15/2023 10:07:48 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: Regulator

“3-2-1 points buydowns”

How does that work? We’ve always avoided points payments when we refi.


10 posted on 05/15/2023 10:29:24 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else…)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Buydown schemes

It's a game with the loan orginator. It's also dangerous because a lot of people assume that rates will go back down to the absurdly low rates we had from 2010 - 2022.

11 posted on 05/15/2023 11:05:53 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: himno hero

“What happened in 1981 to stop American inflationary pressures?”

Same that’s happening now. Give us some other choices.


12 posted on 05/15/2023 11:15:55 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Regulator
"It's also dangerous because a lot of people assume that rates will go back down to the absurdly low rates we had from 2010 - 2022."

Why? The unbiased National Association of Realtors assures us that rates will plummet when inflation falls to 2% in the upcoming months (with no recession, by the way!)
13 posted on 05/15/2023 11:50:26 AM PDT by millenial4freedom (The Democrat Party thinks men can menstruate! How can it possibly be right about everything else?)
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To: Regulator

Thanks. I was unaware of those. It sure does look like danger!

My first mortgage was an adjustable back in the summer of ‘78. It was hard to get a fixed. The bank tied it to the 11th District Cost of Funds Index which moved slowly and it was adjusted only once per year. I think it drifted up a bit the first two or three years, then drifted down. We moved in ‘83, rates had come down a lot, and we got a 30 year fixed which we continued to refi as rates dropped.


14 posted on 05/15/2023 11:52:08 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else…)
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To: Kaiser8408a

The coming Boden Recession is here. If R leadership had any brains they’d be screaming that with one voice. That’s what Pelosi and Schumer would do.

McCarthy is right on the debt limit, but when Biden allows a 2 week shutdown, they will hang the recession on Republicans, on day 1.

“The Republicans are crashing the economy and causing a recession!!!” will be shouted from the rooftops 10 seconds after the debt ceiling is reached. And, as usual, Rs will stand there with their thumbs up their butts, episode #2387816.

They MUST start screaming “Biden Recession!!!” NOW!!! So what if talking heads say “You’re talking down the economy into a recession!” Ignore them, and yell louder. So when even the news can’t hide it anymore, voters will remember the Rs predicted it.

But they won’t do that. Instead, with thumbs firmly implanted, they’ll end up saying, “No, not our fault! Biden did it!” after getting hammered for days.

So predictable. The Stupid Party walks into doors every time.


15 posted on 05/15/2023 12:05:13 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (THE FBI INTERFERED IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!!!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Oh damn

Had forgotten 11th District COF index

Remember tracking that back then

Guess it fell off the radar when everything started settling down in the mid-80s


16 posted on 05/15/2023 12:18:38 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Regulator

I remember looking 11 COFI up in the WSJ to see where our mortgage was headed. Those were lean years just starting out and the last thing I needed was a rate hike. Thank God the index was heavily buffered and moved slowly.


17 posted on 05/15/2023 12:20:22 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else…)
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To: millenial4freedom

No problems! Buy now!

Lemme know when NAR goes along with negotiable commission rates


18 posted on 05/15/2023 12:23:02 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Kaiser8408a

The fact that many financial news reporting sites are reporting the economy is practically the best it’s ever been is concerning. It makes one think that the White House is directly them to publish only articles which reflect well on Biden. Many people take financial advice from these sites but I say trusting them is a big mistake.

If you dig deeper into reported numbers and look at the reports themselves rather than the media’s interpretation, you will find that things are not as rosy as the media makes it appear. Places such as Confounded Interest, Zero Hedge, and Wallstreet On Parade are sites where they do look a bit deeper and that’s where I go for more accurate financial reporting.


19 posted on 05/15/2023 12:27:55 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

https://www.livemint.com/news/world/argentina-central-bank-to-hike-benchmark-interest-rate-600-bps-to-97-11684080293143.html
“Argentina central bank to hike benchmark interest rate 600 bps to 97%”


20 posted on 05/15/2023 12:42:18 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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