Posted on 03/17/2023 8:13:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Around 20 percent of Americans, equivalent to 66 million people, support the idea of a “national divorce” that was recently floated by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), according to a new Ipsos poll.
The idea is far more popular among Republicans than Democrats, with 25 percent of GOP voters wanting to break away and form a conservative nation, compared to just 16 percent of Democrats.
The poll explains:
While the opposition is high, confidence in American democracy is low; only 37% of Americans are optimistic about the state of American democracy. Decisive majorities of Democrats and Republicans are against breaking up the U.S., even as some partisan differences exist at the margins.
However, the pollsters explain that when asked about their state potentially seceding from the union, support for the idea softens even more:
“Only 16% of Americans would support their state seceding and leaving the United States to form or join a new country, while opposition rises to 81%,” Ipsos notes.
The debate over a national divorce was initiated by Greene, who argued it would be an effective way to prevent blue states from imposing their leftist policies on red states.
“We need a national divorce. We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government,” Greene wrote on Twitter. “Everyone I talk to says this. From the sick and disgusting woke culture issues shoved down our throats to the Democrat’s [sic] traitorous America Last policies, we are done.”
We need a national divorce.
We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government.
Everyone I talk to says this.
From the sick and disgusting woke culture issues shoved down our throats to the Democrat’s traitorous America Last policies, we are… https://t.co/Azn8YF1UUy
— Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee) February 20, 2023
This was not the first time that Greene proposed the idea of breaking up the union. In late 2021, Greene said voters who brought “ruin” to California shouldn’t be allowed to do the same to the increasingly Republican stronghold, Florida.
“All possible in a National Divorce scenario,” Greene wrote in December 2021. “After Democrat voters and big donors ruin a state like California, you would think it wise to stop them from doing it to another great state like Florida. Brainwashed people that move from CA and NY really need a cooling off period.”
All possible in a National Divorce scenario.
After Democrat voters and big donors ruin a state like California, you would think it wise to stop them from doing it to another great state like Florida.
Brainwashed people that move from CA and NY really need a cooling off period. https://t.co/NB2dVj7n2X— Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee) December 29, 2021
However, the idea was shot down by War Room host Steve Bannon, a close ally of Greene’s, who pointed out that Republicans still control the majority of state governments.
“It’s something that I’m adamantly obviously opposed to, vehemently,” Bannon said on the podcast, according to Insider. “And I don’t even like some of these commentators starting to talk about it, for the simple reason we control two-thirds of the country.”
Although there are currently no substantial proposals in Washington to divide the country, there has been a surge in secessionist movements in certain states in recent years.
One such movement is aimed at separating rural eastern Oregon from the predominantly liberal state and incorporating it into deep red Idaho. This campaign has gained momentum, with politicians from both states voicing their support for the border shift.
Additionally, a Texas state lawmaker introduced a bill earlier in March that would allow voters to decide whether the state should investigate the feasibility of seceding from the US, popularly known as Texit.
The most recent case of intense political division leading to the separation of states occurred during the American Civil War. The conflict began on April 1861, and resulted in more than four years of devastating warfare, claiming an average of 500 lives per day.
My Social Security System would still require a mandatory savings requirement. My libertarian tendencies notwithstanding. 10% to a ROTH IRA. NO withdrawals until age 59. Rice and beans only to the starving. Deport illegals to the blue states or back to Mexico. No unemployment insurance. It’s gonna be awesome!
The lead up to the divorce is already happening...
Red States are getting redder.
Blue hellholes are getting more violent and angry.
Conservatives are moving out of hellholes and into Florida, Texas etc.. voting with their feet.
I call this the Time of the Settling of Accounts.
I have no problem with an Article 5 convention. Now ask the next question. Why has this xonvension not already happened?
The answer is the leftists democrats in blue states are not agreeing to it and thus it does not happen.
So, divorce it is.
Your statement is not supported by history. Breaking up the Soviet Union has allowed many countries to be more free to include the baltics, Armenia, and many of the old Soviet satellite countries like Hungary and Poland.
A spinless slime ball like usted can’t argue with anyone. Stick that up your Funk and Wagnalls.
Are you kiddint this is SUCH a bad idea. We tried this before in 1860 do we not learn from history how this ends?! Secession is nothing less in definition than a ‘national divorce’. Are you begging for the democrats to do to lincoln what lincoln did to the democrats?!
Lets not go down this road.
You are a statist and a buffoon.
Lets not go down this road.
Jesus came to divide, but he also came to unite. How is that possible. What is the point of division and unification?
Trump Came to unite, but also to divide us. The issue is MAGA. (absolutely not saying Trump is God, but it is a good strategy)
“A nation divided cannot stand..............it will be all one or all the other.”
“A nation divided cannot stand..............it will be all one or all the other.”
I think you raise a good point and sadly I am not hopeful for the future as you may be. The children have been miseducated and as Samuel Clemens was attributed to have said, it’s much easier to deceive a people than to convince them that they’ve been deceived. We are in the position of convincing a nation of 350 million people that they’ve been deceived. I don’t believe that is possible. So the media will manufacture a crisis after crisis until we’ve collapsed from economic malfeasance. The communists will step in with their simplistic and top heavy authoritarianism and we will have a king. The pendulum will have swung to the left as far as it can go. Then it will be time for the Yangs and the Khoms to war with each other until the arrival of the Enterprise. Speak the holy words!! “Ee’dplebnista norkohn forkohn perfectunun.” parade out with a tattered american flag to the horror of the protagonist realizing this is the future of mankind.
Ultimately that’s where I think we’re going.
But I might be a little too dramatic.
Or Charleston Hesto rides past a fallen Statue of Liberty
Ask her what else she would be willing to do for money?
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