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New Ipsos Poll: 66 Million Americans Support Idea of 'National Divorce'
Red State ^ | 03/17/2023 | Ben Kew

Posted on 03/17/2023 8:13:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Varda

That is just it. It is clean slate. A new social security system il surely come up for a vote. That is the great thing about secession - it is new beginning. A wonderful thing.


41 posted on 03/17/2023 8:54:52 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: TomGuy

FL and OH are just the states they haven’t perfect vote fraud in yet. AZ, GA, and other swing states have been stolen by vote fraud. In fact, many “blue” states would be red if not for rigged elections.


42 posted on 03/17/2023 8:55:05 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: central_va

Secession would be a worthwhile goal. Trouble is, most of us Americans think very short term, as in weeks or months or fiscal years. A process of secession, if done correctly may take several years of dedicated work.

It can be done, but the effort would need to be lead by a group of self motivated people. They would need to be ready to lose the support of groups that are in opposition to this movement. I can imagine a president like Joe, demanding that agencies such as the FBI, CIA treat pro-secessionists as though these people were potential militia or domestic terrorists.He’s already got M. Garland doing this to some of our private citizens.


43 posted on 03/17/2023 8:55:30 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Major Matt Mason

RINOs would side with the Democrats in a Civil War.


44 posted on 03/17/2023 8:55:44 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: central_va

Actually what the word ‘state’ means. The truth is hiding in plain sight.


45 posted on 03/17/2023 8:56:55 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: TomGuy

The entire mid west and southern states could and should remain intact after forming a new republic. They are not disenfranchising anyone. Just setting up a new federal government.


46 posted on 03/17/2023 8:57:01 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SeekAndFind
“It’s something that I’m adamantly obviously opposed to, vehemently,” Bannon said on the podcast, according to Insider. “And I don’t even like some of these commentators starting to talk about it, for the simple reason we control two-thirds of the country.”

Come on, Steve, Democrats control most of the big population centers in the U.S. Unless the GOP tries to be competitive in the big cities, the Democrats will continue to control much of the "national conversation". Controlling land mass is irrelevant.

47 posted on 03/17/2023 9:04:30 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (To solve the Democrat problem, the RINO problem must first be solved.)
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To: dfwgator
Most likely. They fight conservatives harder than they fight the regressives.
48 posted on 03/17/2023 9:05:12 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (To solve the Democrat problem, the RINO problem must first be solved.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I oppose the idea of dividing by states. So people stuck in a stolen state (say, AZ) would be trapped in commieland?


49 posted on 03/17/2023 9:09:24 PM PDT by No.6
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To: central_va
No! We're Americans, they are Traitors, they have already Seceded from the US.
50 posted on 03/17/2023 9:11:32 PM PDT by cowboyusa (There is no co- existence with Pinks and Reds)
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To: dfwgator
The end Goal of the Left is foreign Troops. This will piss more and more Americans off. We are going to go deeper into the Prophecy given to George Washington.
51 posted on 03/17/2023 9:14:40 PM PDT by cowboyusa (There is no co- existence with Pinks and Reds)
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To: SeekAndFind

Adherence to the Tenth Amendment would solve 90 % of the problem.


52 posted on 03/17/2023 9:24:39 PM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: BrexitBen

Yep


53 posted on 03/17/2023 9:28:37 PM PDT by cowboyusa (There is no co- existence with Pinks and Reds)
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To: McCarthysGhost

I say that’s correct. I do not want my kids learning CRT, tranny madness or snorting Fentanyl. I want a solvent system, with borders and armed people. I want to go to Costco and have one language. Let CA/blue states rot.


54 posted on 03/17/2023 9:33:28 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....l)
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To: SeekAndFind

The woke marxists and libtards are ruining America. High crime, gun control,unsecure borders, drug attacks by China,
and now the Dems want to end Social Security for white people.

You bet I want a divorce. I want it yesterday.


55 posted on 03/17/2023 9:39:34 PM PDT by Candor7 ( ( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!)<img src=""width=500></img>)
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To: central_va
Social Security was never a good idea. When it started there were many more workers than retirees (40 to 1) and the recipient age was after the average age at death. Even with those advantages the first checks didn't go out until five years after inception.

A new country could raise the retirement age to 75 and suspend public pension payments for 5 years. How many old people are willing to do that? I'd vote for private retirement accounts but that doesn't solve the problem of government dependent old people.

56 posted on 03/17/2023 9:40:27 PM PDT by Varda
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To: joma89

I’ve never wanted a commie to govern over me.


57 posted on 03/17/2023 9:58:43 PM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: Golden Eagle
There’s no way to separate by politics. We’ll all intertwined. Every state whether red or blue has a huge minority of the other party.

True. The divide isn't between states within them, plus the larger part of the population is barely political at all. Division by counties would create an awful mess and wouldn't solve things, since most people live in counties that already have large numbers of members of both parties. Population exchange and forced repatriation led to mass murder in India and would do the same here. I don't know what the solution is, but we're going to be in the ____ whatever we do, until we can get our ____ together.

58 posted on 03/17/2023 10:00:56 PM PDT by x
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats tried it and got their ass whipped in the 19th century. If Republicans try now, the result will be the same. Possibly an even more humiliating defeat for the party that tries to secede now.


59 posted on 03/17/2023 10:38:14 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: SeekAndFind

We’re the tax base. They can’t split from us but we could from them...


60 posted on 03/17/2023 11:22:46 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Dems loot & riot -called "protesting" by media. Repub's protest -called "looting & rioting" by media)
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