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1 posted on 03/13/2023 12:57:32 PM PDT by Red Badger
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Instead, we should trust in the power of the free market to drive innovation and competition in the banking industry.

If only there was a political party that was actually adept at making this point. Sadly, there isn't one.

2 posted on 03/13/2023 1:01:53 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (To solve the Democrat problem, the RINO problem must first be solved.)
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Look at Sarbanes-Oxley aka the Consultancy Full Employment Act. Private cmopanies have put billions (trillions?) into this overblown POC legislation and it has yet to produce a SINGLE positive outcome.

After having worked on SOX implementations for Fortune 100 companies I personally cold come up with a dozen ways around it to accomplish what Enron did just with different trickery. I am willing to wager dozens of FReepers in the industry concur.

The more government you get, the more corruption you get. AWLAYS.


3 posted on 03/13/2023 1:04:01 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Difference between a cow and the US Capitol 1/6 "riot:" you can only milk a cow 3 times a day)
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Pfft! They already own it. Or more precisely it owns them.


4 posted on 03/13/2023 1:06:45 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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Are the banks not already run by the Dems? Government run systems are always the best... if you enjoy systemic collapse.


6 posted on 03/13/2023 1:09:16 PM PDT by One4Life (It's all about control )
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The U.S. banking system must be heavily regulated because the U.S. government is the “lender of last resort” that props up our entire economy.


7 posted on 03/13/2023 1:34:09 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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The goal of the left is to nationalize banks and many other businesses. American leftist are so arrogant that they think they can nationalize better than Venezuela. “Nationalization just hasn’t been done right yet.”

It is hideous to think that a bunch of incompetents can run anything. Government employees are exactly that, incompetent. Want proof? Just look at how great government already runs things.

9 posted on 03/13/2023 2:54:53 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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A couple of thoughts:

1. Rather than fully compensate lenders of more than 250k, hou about partially compensating them, say, at 50%.

2. Any rescue or bailout will ultimately be paid for by we taxpayers. We will become poorer because our tax money is not being use to make our country better. It’s being wasted propping up the weak, stupid and corrupt.


10 posted on 03/13/2023 5:07:59 PM PDT by cymbeline
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"As a conservative, I have watched with increasing concern as the left wing of the Democratic Party has pushed for greater control over the US banking system [??? emphasis added]."

Patriots beware!

Although the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification Congress is a big headache, conservatives also seem to be clueless about the federal government's constitutionally limited powers.

Yes, the drafters of the Constitution gave the popularly elected Congress, not the constitutionally undefined Federal Reserve run by non-popularly-elected bureaucrats, the specific power to regulate the value of national coin currency, but ONLY the power to regulate value of money, no other power to regulate banking.

In fact, Congress's politically correct power to regulate banking starts to get suspicious with the 19th century Supreme Court emphasis on the reasonably clear interpretation of the Commerce Clause, that it doesn't expressly give Congress the specific power to regulate INTRAstate commerce.

But most importantly, the drafters of the Constitution had discussed giving Congress the express power to regulate banking, but had decided not to.

More specifically, Benjamin Franklin had proposed including building commerce-related canals in the Constitution's Article I, Section 8-limited power clause that authorized federal mail roads. But some delegates objected to including canals on the basis that it would give Congress an excuse to establish a bank which would risk the ratification of the Constitution (my wording).

It is important to note that Franklin did not initially suggest giving Congress the specific power to establish a bank, but to build canals. So when the drafters decided not to give Congress the power to build canals because of the implied power to establish a national bank, they eliminated banking powers as a "necessary and proper" means for Congress to perform any of its Section 8-limited power duties imo.

Getting back to the previously mentioned Federal Reserve, activist President Woodrow Wilson wrongly ignored first leading Congress to successfully petition the states to ratify an appropriate banking power amendment to the Constitution before signing the bill that established the Reserve.

As a consequence of Wilson's misguided "leadership" it remains that Congress is still constitutionally "married" to the regulating the value of money clause, corrupt career lawmakers probably happy that they have more job security being able to hide behind Reserve bureaucrats.

But the problem remains that Wilson's Federal Reserve wrongly weakens the constitutionally enumerated voting power of ordinary qualified citizen voters to indirectly regulate the value of money through their constitutionally enumerated voting power.

Patriots, the bottom line is this imo. What is your threshold of “pain” for peacefully stopping unconstitutionally big state and federal governments controlled by bully, constitutionally undefined political parties, from oppressing the people under their boots?

The inevitable remedy for ongoing, post-17A ratification, corrupt political party treason (imo)...

All MAGA patriots need to wake up their RINO federal and state lawmakers by making the following clear to them.

If they don’t publicly support either a resolution, or a Constitutional Convention, to effectively "secede" ALL the states from the unconstitutionally big federal government by amending the Constitution to repeal the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A), doing so before the primary elections in 2024, that YOU will primary them.

If the proposed amendment was limited strictly to repealing 16&17A, relatively little or ideally no discussion would be needed before ratification of the amendment imo.

With 16&17A out of the way, my hope is that Trump 47 becomes the FIRST president of a truly constitutionally limited power federal government.

In the meanwhile, I'm not holding my breath for significant MAGA legislation to appear in the first 100 days of new term for what may still prove to be another RINO-controlled House.

Again, Trump will hopefully do another round of primarying RINOs for 2024 elections.

11 posted on 03/13/2023 7:19:25 PM PDT by Amendment10
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...as renowned conservative economist Milton Friedman once said, “The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.”




12 posted on 03/13/2023 8:06:46 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (“There is no good government at all & none possible.”--Mark Twain)
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