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East Palestine, Ohio train wreck: It's the dioxin
Planetwaves FM ^ | 2/13/23 | Eric Coppolino

Posted on 02/18/2023 10:12:48 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

Most coverage of the train wreck in Palestine, Ohio is missing one word: dioxin. There were reportedly 14 tanker cars full of vinyl chloride, a precursor to polyvinyl chloride — that is, vinyl. Burning vinyl is the most serious source of dioxin in the environment — whether from trash incinerators, house fires or chemical spills.

While vinyl chloride is a precursor chemical to making PVC, any time chlorinated compounds burn there will be dioxins created. And dioxin is a byproduct of any manufacturing process involving chlorine, from “disinfectants” to the bleaching of paper. There was plenty of dioxin in those tanker cars before they caught fire.

This mess of 14 tanker cars (really, many more, but 14 had vinyl chloride) was then set on fire with authorization by the government, apparently to make it easier to clear the railroad tracks. This was the worst possible decision. It has turned many, many miles into what should be no-man’s land. But I have not heard of one single test for dioxin being done.

Note that chlorinated dioxin goes by several other names, including TCDD, and is sometimes abbreviated “2,3,7,8.” Dibenzofurans, or furans for short, are nearly identical in their toxicity but are spoken about less often. Many other chemicals, such as PCBs, are considered “dioxin-like compounds” for regulatory purposes due to their toxicity.

Additional note: There is another type of chemical called “dioxin,” which is a functional group (kind of like a frequently used syllable in chemical formulas), 1,4-dioxin. This is not especially toxic in its non-chlorinated form and is probably the dioxin referred to when we are told that it’s created by the combustion of diesel fuel (where there should be no chlorine available).

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: dioxin; eastpalastine; environment; ohio
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1 posted on 02/18/2023 10:12:48 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The governments official okey-dokey is what gets me. Where did that come from and why has there been no other actions “approved by the government”?.

Has the river turned florescent green yet?


2 posted on 02/18/2023 10:23:41 AM PST by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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I’d love to see a tanker truck full of that creek water dumped the the EPA guy’s lawn.


3 posted on 02/18/2023 10:32:28 AM PST by ryderann
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Thus, Norfolk Southern has created a Superfund Site formerly named East Palestine.


4 posted on 02/18/2023 10:34:20 AM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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This will end Norfolk Southern, and after the dems get scared enough to throw mayor Pete Bootyjuge under the bus, it will end his political career too.
A scapegoat will be needed and it sure hell won’t be Biden.


5 posted on 02/18/2023 10:44:01 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
This is fine

https://imgur.com/gallery/S8pnokg

6 posted on 02/18/2023 10:46:26 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

If the Russians had nuked D.C. they’d have caused less long-term damage than this. (Beyond the perspective that by doing so, they might have accidentally improved the country exponentially).


7 posted on 02/18/2023 10:52:06 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; All

Keep yelling folks, whether its true or not we have an opportunity to kill Buttplug’s career and this little shit Regan from EPA and damage EPA’s reputation in the bargain. Keep yelling.


8 posted on 02/18/2023 10:52:43 AM PST by robowombat ( ..)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I wonder how the democrats are liking the results of their voting now.


9 posted on 02/18/2023 11:24:59 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: bigbob

This isn’t 1995. The scapegoat will be DeWine.


10 posted on 02/18/2023 11:30:30 AM PST by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Interesting point, but I’ll wait for some actual data before I start running about like Chicken Little. This article is just speculation.


11 posted on 02/18/2023 12:00:46 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (eleutheromaniac)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Perhaps you need to read up on Times Beach, MO.
An entire town evacuated. The interstate off ramp removed and now taken over by the elements.
One word… Dioxin.


12 posted on 02/18/2023 12:10:21 PM PST by midwest_hiker
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Going forward, transoortation of chemicals like these in large quantities will limit the amount and spread it out throughout a train, impractical as that would be.


13 posted on 02/18/2023 12:13:24 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (/s)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

“This article is just speculation.”

It looks like just another “We’re all gonna die” thing to lump in with covid-19. Don’t forget to panic.


14 posted on 02/18/2023 12:16:44 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Two words: Love Canal.


15 posted on 02/18/2023 12:19:20 PM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: midwest_hiker
Perhaps you need to read up on Times Beach, MO.

That was certainly a tragedy, but to this day, people argue whether it was properly handled. The site is now a park.

Closer situation in Ohio to Chernobyl nuclear -- or DDT?

16 posted on 02/18/2023 12:37:46 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: bigbob

Well, they’ve tried to blame DJT for it while refusing to assist the citizens with FEMA assistance.
DJT said he would visit Palestine and suddenly within hours FEMA announced it would help.


17 posted on 02/18/2023 1:15:25 PM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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"Note that chlorinated dioxin goes by several other names, including TCDD, and is sometimes abbreviated '2,3,7,8.'"

Wikipedia says "TCDD is the most potent compound (congener) of its series (polychlorinated dibenzodioxins, known as PCDDs or simply dioxins) and became known as a contaminant in Agent Orange, a herbicide used in the Vietnam War."

18 posted on 02/18/2023 1:15:27 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Over time, Dioxin will take a serious toll over humanity, animals and plant life in that area, and the areas East of Ohio for miles and miles. Western is in big trouble for plant and wildlife let alone humanity in general.


19 posted on 02/18/2023 2:27:06 PM PST by chopperk ( )
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To: bigbob

btt


20 posted on 02/18/2023 2:40:47 PM PST by Jane Austen (Neo-cons are liberal Democrats who love illegal aliens and war.)
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