Posted on 02/18/2023 7:13:53 AM PST by george76
> Just curious - what kind of school? <
Oh, sorry. I should have been more descriptive there. I taught in an urban (big city) public school district, high schools only. As I gained seniority, I was able to bid on better teaching positions. So I was in three different schools total.
Two were majority black. The other one was somewhat racially balanced. All of the students were poor. Student behavior and attendance was a serious problem.
But here’s the thing. The honors kids (black and white) were great, as good as any students at a fancy suburban school. So of course my district is shutting down the honors classes - those classes just don’t have the proper demographic mix.
As I noted earlier, urban schools are hopeless.
This shoulda been a reply to post 3
In today's world, the bullies are likely gang members and fighting one of them back will result in bringing the wrath of the entire gang upon you and your family. Friends will disappear into the woodwork as they will not want to get involved in sticking up for you, therefore getting the gang after them as well.
This is blaming the victim's mother for something she has total control over.
She can at any time remove the child from that situation as any number of parents have done.
She is preferring to rely on the system. Which in my opinion is stupid.
There was another mother that did that and her son ending up carrying a knife for self defense which resulted in his being arrested.
Do not put your children in impossible situations.
You will not like the solutions they come up with.
I’m afraid that experience and others permanently soured me on blacks, teachers, and most cops.
Amish gal who outweighs the boy 2:1. Although in the 60s I was taught it was worth losing if you drew enough blood first.
You win pussy of the day
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> Fighting back a bully isn’t always like what you see in movies… <
Every last thing you said in your post is true. (And see the end of my post #32).
And as I noted in an earlier post, I had a student in my class who had murdered someone, and was out on bail. A bully like that won’t be deterred by a punch in the nose.
It sickening, but sometimes a bullied kid just has to get out of that school. There is no better option. Heck, even Lee retreated after Gettysburg.
That precious little annoying girl of color looks like a 20 year old. And of course she is protected. Blacks committing felonious assault against small white victims is encouraged and supported.
I'm not a teacher, but Its my pet peeve as well, as I watch developments, and attend school meetings regularly here in NY State. In the black/poor areas, they destroy the honors programs, which is at least a model for the all students and refuge for a few. And after that is destroyed, will try to restart one at a charter school.
My own kids' school, which is 96% white / Asian higher incomes and fewer discipline problems and strong parental input - even there, advanced programs are under assault around the edges from LAZY, STUPID and IDEOLOGICAL union/karen administrators who have wormed their way into positions of power. Another peeve is that most of these suburban parents are worried more about SPORTS, while my allies on the advanced programs are invariably the Chinese/Korean/Indian parents.
The bully I stood up to made my life a living hell for the rest of my time there. He and his friends would stalk me everywhere, looking for an opportunity to beat me senseless, forcing me to always watch my back and sneak down back alleys to avoid the main streets. One night, they came by my house and smashed almost every window on the first floor with cinder blocks and baseball bats. My parents had to pay the costs for that.
I ended up joining the Marines after high school in large part just to get away from that neighborhood and those kids.
Also, and here is the kicker, I was the one suspended from school for fighting. Never had a discipline issue in my entire school life up to that point. The administrators didn't care. Rules are rules, was their reply. The bully was considered the victim because I threw the first punch. And the bully was careful to get his revenge outside of school grounds.
Urban schools were and are hellholes. Likely even worse today than back when I went. Raising my children in a mostly white affluent suburb was probably the best thing I ever did for them.
Black and female? certain enough social justice points to get away with beating up a white boy. If she were also a butch lesbian, she could probably get away with assassinating a U.S. Congressman.
This is Assault. Report it as an assault of a minor to the local police and send a copy to the school and the bus company.
Be litigious and sue them and Bully parents for damages.
Because fathers won't peel themselves from the TV sets long enough to do anything about it.
Because men think the services of prostitutes are more important than the rights of their sons. Need proof? Men spend billions a year on prostitutes in this country alone. How much do they spend on supporting MRAs?
And because self righteous men are more concerned about teaching their sons not to hit girls than in demanding equal justice for their sons.
So men, what are YOU going to do about it?
The assailant should be charged under the juvenile code and expelled.
You be the first to bitch and cry if your kid got their bell rung repeatedly by older, larger kids.
You don’t know a damn thing about me. STFU
> Urban schools were and are hellholes. <
I certainly agree. But I must mention something. As I noted earlier, I taught at an urban high school. It had all the expected problems: poor student attendance, fights in the hallways, kids running wild in the classrooms, etc.
Ah, but then by some miracle we got a tough principal, an ex-army paratrooper. He turned that place around. He walked the halls constantly. He suspended bullies and troublemakers. And he called the city police. Those were golden years.
He committed lots of no-no’s there. You’re not supposed to suspend disruptive students. High suspension rates make the district look bad! And you’re not supposed to call the city police. You’re supposed to call the school police (better to bury the incident).
The central administrators hated the guy, and told him so. But they couldn’t fire him because he had the strong support of a school board member. Finally he retired. And then it was back to the chaos.
Sounds like the principal you speak of took the Rudy Giuliani approach. Good for him. Wish there were more like him.
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