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Belgian soccer player suddenly collapses on field and dies just moments after defending penalty kick
The Blaze ^ | 02/15/2023 | Chris Enloe

Posted on 02/15/2023 4:05:53 PM PST by DFG

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To: entropy12
There are plenty of anecdotal incidents getting reported.

Anecdotal? There are videos of dozens and dozens of athletes dropping on sports fields and basketball courts.

You know, the same anecdotal thing we've seen every year before 2021. /sarc

21 posted on 02/15/2023 6:45:08 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: DFG

Was it because of Belgian Waffles? Was he up-to-date on his waffles?


22 posted on 02/15/2023 6:46:02 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: gas_dr
The question is there an increase in the number actually or an increase in the reports. Thus far there is no increase in incidence.

No increase in incidents of athletes dying suddenly? You're really going to make that statement despite the increasing number who are dying like this goalie did at 25?

I mean as kids we all learned "Take Me Out To The Ball Game":

Take me out to the ball game
Take me out with the crowd
Buy me some peanuts and crackerjack
We'll see how many players have heart attacks

23 posted on 02/15/2023 6:53:39 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: DFG

Belgian soccer goalie Arne Espeel dead at 25 after collapsing on field

02/14/2023 11:04:40 AM PST · by DallasBiff · 47 replies
NY Post ^ | 2/14/23 | Post Wire Report

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4131021/posts


24 posted on 02/15/2023 6:56:29 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: entropy12
"OTOH covid recovery numbers among the 265 million are encouraging. I am a living example."

And my 85-year-old-mother-with-severe-COPD, who only had a headache for a few hours from COVID, is evidence that "horse paste" is the way to go.

25 posted on 02/15/2023 7:35:44 PM PST by The Duke (Never Retreat, Never Surrender!)
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To: gas_dr
Assumption 2. The explosion of reports of said deaths is a function of the highly politicized need to be right on both sides

Well the reports were from news stories which obviously will not get as many cases as a careful scientific investigation.

Now IF the previous years totals were also based on news stories then perhaps your reasoning might be right. However we have previous years based on careful scientific investigation...which obviously is going to get more cases than news stories.

26 posted on 02/15/2023 7:57:48 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: gas_dr
Your use of an indirect proof is also not logically sound

I made no proof other than the joke-proof. At this point its not a matter of deduction but of common sense.

27 posted on 02/15/2023 8:58:56 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: T.B. Yoits

Haha dozens add up to 0.001% of 265 million.
You need to grasp reality of magnitudes.


28 posted on 02/15/2023 10:37:36 PM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: DFG

There’s no data the vax pushers will accept as valid as long as it doesn’t reflect well on the Covid ‘vaccines’.

I’ve seen reports where people have tabulated number of deaths of athletes, and the number rises dramatically with the introduction of the Covid ‘vaccine’. Vax pushers say it means nothing.

Funeral homes talk about 2020 being flat in terms of death and then 2021 bringing more deaths that usual. Vax pushers say it’s lies.

Actuarial tables of insurance companies count increased deaths. Vax pushers say it means nothing and it’s all lies.

Pathologists report increases in cancers and blood clots starting 2021, vax pushers say it means nothing.

The mortality rates in VAERS become almost vertical in their increasing rates starting with 2021. Vax pushers tell us to divide by total population ???!!!!

Oh no, there’s no way vax pushers are going to admit anything is wrong. It really doesn’t matter if children are dying in their sleep and players dying on the field in shocking numbers. The vax pushers are here to pretend to be more ‘logical’ and by that I mean they will deny everythying.

However, they never needed any proof that ‘vaccines’ work as they pushed them without data and never asked for evidence. They sat quietly as ‘relative risk’ numbers were shared for vaccine efficacy when they had to have known absolute risk would be the valid number to use. They cared nothing about Fauci telling pregnant women, “We’re seeing evidence....they’re safe’ See, that’s the standard of scientific expertise to PUSH the vax. But the same people will NEVER TOLERATE evidence that exposes the ‘vaccines’ as toxic and harmful. Can’t be allowed to happen.

Meanwhile, they’re here to lord it over us with a fake monocle and raised eyebrow, and telling us Social Media, which existed before 2021, is responsible for the ‘impression’ insurance companies have they they are paying out more death benefits for younger and younger people....


29 posted on 02/15/2023 10:42:54 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: DFG
Haha dozens add up to 0.001% of 265 million. You need to grasp reality of magnitudes.

You need to grasp your sociopathy. Once again, you laugh about deaths. The rest of mankind really is just numbers to you.

Sick.

How much are the pharmaceutical korporations, through government programs, paying you to shill for them?

Dozens refers to the athletes whose collapses were caught on video. While you insist there's no evidence of an increase in deaths, here's one group of healthy individuals dying right there on video as never before seen.

Healthy professional athletes who have better diet and conditioning than most of the population have a severe uptick in the number of health episodes and deaths starting at the point which the Jim Jones Jabs were introduced. The rest of the population who have poorer health and conditioning are dying suddenly at an even greater rate.

30 posted on 02/16/2023 5:10:38 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: AndyTheBear
Now what could possibly be wrong with my use of David Hume's logic?

Here's where you began wrong.... Thus we have a total of zero confirmed cases of such deaths being jab related since this can in turn be said of each such sudden death.

Let's pretend there ARE zero confirmed cases if that makes you happy. Still we have the uptick in the number of deaths AND cardiac issues, not to mention other various maladies as reported by numerous other countries and a myriad of science nerds.

The only thing being different between pre and post jab is....yes, you guessed it, THE JAB!

So, the earth gives your post the following score....

Nice dance, doh.

31 posted on 02/16/2023 5:25:35 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gas_dr
Thus far there is no increase in incidence.

And you know this how? Cause you're a doctor?

Stay in your lane, sawbones.


32 posted on 02/16/2023 5:35:27 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

It was a joke proof. I am not a fan of David Hume. You are certainly correct not to accept it.


33 posted on 02/16/2023 12:46:32 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: DFG

“1,000 Athletes - Collapsing, Dying, Heart Problems, Blood Clots - March 2021 To June 2022”

“The following is a documented compilation of 1,000 Athletes and Sports related incidences from March 2021 to 16th June 2022, each slide presented for 5 seconds. These are only the ones we hear about and which are sports related. The real numbers are unknown. There is a concerted and desperate effort by big tech and the mainstream media to ignore, hide, cover up, divert or straight up lie about what is going on.”

https://rumble.com/v1dvc6n-1000-athletes-collapsing-dying-heart-problems-blood-clots-march-2021-to-jun.html


34 posted on 02/17/2023 7:54:32 AM PST by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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To: bagster

Because I can read the actual data and not get caught up in the breathless reporting. And it is my lane. But thank you for the commentary


35 posted on 02/18/2023 4:20:15 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will )
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To: T.B. Yoits

Yes. The incidence of sudden cardiac death in athletes is well known. There are several processes that cause this. According to all studies in the literature there is no increase so far in the incidence. While the breathless one off reporting makes it feel like it is happening because people are combing the obits to find the story that fits their narrative at this point there is no actual reported increase in the frequency of death related to cardiac events in athletes.

Lots of extrapolations and assumptions that the data are not showing. If we keep things data driven we can discern the truths. Otherwise it is hysteria at its finest.


36 posted on 02/18/2023 4:24:30 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will )
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To: gas_dr
If we keep things data driven we can discern the truths.

Data driven?

Like giving out shots on street corners to passersby without knowing who they really were?

Like Pfizer trying to hide the data for 75 years?

Like suppressing the effectiveness of HCQ, vitamin D, and Ivermectin?

Like suppressing the data on the ineffectiveness of masks?

Like mandating six foot distancing with no data to back it up?

Like social media korporations conspiring with government crooks to censor data?

Like false scientists claimed the COVID-1984 bio-weapon wasn't created in a lab and why they claimed didn't include patented genetic sequences despite the data right in front of them?

Like these same criminals claiming it wouldn't leave the muscle in the arm and wouldn't enter the cell nucleus?

Like the CDC to this day not releasing how many employees never took the Jim Jones Jab despite foisting it on others?

37 posted on 02/18/2023 8:30:40 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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