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Trump’s instincts on social security and Medicare are better than almost every other Republican
Ryan James Girdusky ^ | 1/20/23 | Ryan James Girdusky

Posted on 01/20/2023 6:39:22 PM PST by 6thavenue

Trump’s instincts on social security and Medicare are better than almost every other Republican.

Going after these programs is suicide and hurts Republican voters that are working-class and on fixed incomes the most.

See: politico.com Trump to GOP: Don’t touch Medicare or Social Security in debt ceiling fight

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To: Captain Peter Blood

Part b does pat for drugs, given by a Dr or home health. Part d is pharmacy drugs


61 posted on 01/20/2023 9:10:16 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: familyop

I don’t agree with you.

The only thing needed to get costs down would be to outlaw all medical insurance except catastrophic coverage. If people have to pay cash for medical care they will shop and bargain like they do for everything else. The free market works magic.


62 posted on 01/20/2023 9:13:35 PM PST by devere
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Yes you the Medicare premium goes to the MA Plan.


63 posted on 01/20/2023 9:14:02 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

That is to get you to call the 800 number to talk to a broker, no one that has a MA plan gets the Medicare premium back.


64 posted on 01/20/2023 9:17:57 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: 6thavenue

Far more satisfied that I’m not going to Mexico to have a major surgery, I’ll tell you that.

You want to change the system, only option is to abolish Medicare, and that isn’t going to happen… the very article that initiated this thread shows the reality of even attempting to do that.

As long as Medicare is the driver of the system it cannot and will not change.


65 posted on 01/20/2023 9:47:32 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: devere
"I don’t agree with you.

The only thing needed to get costs down would be to outlaw all medical insurance except catastrophic coverage. If people have to pay cash for medical care they will shop and bargain like they do for everything else. The free market works magic.
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That's a good idea.

66 posted on 01/20/2023 9:51:54 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: HamiltonJay

If medical services were less expensive, Medicare wouldn’t have a cost problem. You didn’t answer my question about the doctors cartel and hospital cartels and restrictions nurse practitioners - all of which zoom up prices. We artificially limit the number of doctors and hospitals, and force people to go to doctors for procedures and evaluations that nurse practitioners could handle. But instead of trying to break up this inflationary guild system - along with big pharmaceutical price gouging - too many GOPers talk about cutting their constituents Medicare benefits


67 posted on 01/20/2023 9:54:04 PM PST by 6thavenue
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To: DiogenesLamp

The doctors association gets to decree how many new doctors are “needed”. and new medical schools can be built. How’s that for a medieval guild. You don’t think that drives up costs?


68 posted on 01/20/2023 9:57:10 PM PST by 6thavenue
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To: devere

Politically, Trump is 100% correct.


69 posted on 01/20/2023 10:00:22 PM PST by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: Abby4116

I have A & B and a supplemental plan through United Healthcare. I don’t pay any co-pays or deductibles. They’re covered with my higher cost plan. But, I’m with you. I never heard of Medicare paying for groceries.
That’s only gonna happen with Advantage plans through private insurers, that you’re probably paying higher premiums for, so basically, you’re probably paying for them yourself and they’re not free.


70 posted on 01/20/2023 10:41:31 PM PST by sunny bonobo
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To: devere

The way it works is a person eligible for medicare can opt for the government to pay his medical bills directly through traditional medicare in which case grocery provisions are not included or the person can opt to go into the medicare advantage program and select a health insurance plan from a private insurer like Aetna who pays his medical bills with the government paying most, if not all, the premium to Aetna. The primary insurers compete for the business and some offer free grocery provisions to attract medicare advantage participants to get their business.


71 posted on 01/21/2023 12:46:05 AM PST by chuckee ( )
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To: suthener

I’m in my 40s and would gladly opt out of the program if I wasn’t taxed and they lifted some of the limitations of tax free deposits to my investment accounts. I think they should expand options to allow anyone who can afford to get out to get out.


72 posted on 01/21/2023 4:36:50 AM PST by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: suthener

the US is already bankrupt. we’re 32 TRILLION in debt...and adding to it.


73 posted on 01/21/2023 7:25:59 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“the US is already bankrupt. we’re 32 TRILLION in debt...and adding to it.”

Don’t tell the other commenters on this thread who think we can tax our way out of it.


74 posted on 01/21/2023 7:28:05 AM PST by suthener
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To: 6thavenue

I have a Medicare Advantage Plan. I get $150 quarterly allowance for OTC products, a free Fitbit, 2 free dental visits a year, a few other perks. I agree with the other posters that much of this could be eliminated.


75 posted on 01/21/2023 7:30:35 AM PST by gattaca (Either you will control your government, or government will control you. Ronald Reagan)
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To: 6thavenue

“Trump’s instincts on social security and Medicare are better than almost every other Republican”

If only his instincts (and convictions) about the jabs were as well.


76 posted on 01/21/2023 9:15:46 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: RedElement

Amen spot on


77 posted on 01/21/2023 9:35:20 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: 6thavenue
The doctors association gets to decree how many new doctors are “needed”. and new medical schools can be built. How’s that for a medieval guild. You don’t think that drives up costs?

I've long thought the medical market was deliberately manipulated by government and the membership to keep prices artificially high. It's effectively a monopoly the government condones.

78 posted on 01/21/2023 3:45:42 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: rarestia

“I’m in my 40s and would gladly opt out of the program if I wasn’t taxed and they lifted some of the limitations of tax free deposits to my investment accounts. I think they should expand options to allow anyone who can afford to get out to get out.”

Hold on there, whipperstapper. Unfortunately, that whole “opt out” thing isn’t going to work for us old people because you’re paying OUR social security.


79 posted on 01/22/2023 6:24:33 AM PST by suthener
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To: suthener

So let them reinvest it elsewhere. Why should my future be held hostage? Governments before I was even conceived started the theft. Am I to be held to account for the rest of my life for the sins of our fathers?


80 posted on 01/22/2023 7:03:40 AM PST by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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