The problem with ALL of these theories is... it would take a massive nation wide cover up involving possibly hundreds of people, every single election.
I am sorry, but in the real world people talk. People get arrested for something and want to give up info on something to get charges dropped etc.
And the people supposedly pulling this perfect crime off election after election all have IQ’s of about 60 on average.
This just doesn’t make sense.
Yes it does.
It doesn’t need a bunch of people.
Just five, one for each state, and with the knowledge of which precincts to skip balloting to.
You dont think the people who pay people to deliver harvested ballots by the ballot are capable or orchestrating a massive redirection of mail in ballots? It only takes a few ‘leaders’ in each district to coordinate. Only a few hackers to massage the databases. Only a few people to look the other way. And its all motivated by under the table payoffs. The ‘mules’ dont have to see the big picture, they just want their promised payoff.
The Democrats have always been well organized down to the street level, for OVER A HUNDRED YEARS. They have an extensive organization that would make the Mafia and Mexican Cartels jealous. Punishment for running your mouth is quick and sure.
The Republicans, OTOH, are like the Keystone Cops...........
and sos and ag are looking the other way
The cheating is diverse and ubiquitous. It changes depending on several factors. In AZ the rats knew 90% of GOP voters vote in person on Election Day. So a large percentage of the machines were down in primarily Republican precincts on Election Day. This cost Lake hundreds of thousands votes. In Mi the rat SOS made sure ballot petitions were tossed so the candidate who would have definitely beaten whitmer was removed from the primary. The rats sabotaged those petitions and the Soros SOS knew it. It doesn’t take a “massive nation wide cover up”.
They did - after the 2020 election many people came forward with sworn affidavits regarding what they had seen or even to what they had done.
As for the talking, some of these scams can be perpetrated without any specific knowledge of the mechanics being shared with operatives on the ground. In other cases, the operatives understand that they are voting for a living, so there is no point in cooperating with an investigation that might ultimately end up forcing them to get a real job.
Though unrecognized by many conservatives, there is a massive movement on the ground in favor of a Universal Government Income. It is only natural that many election workers, postal workers, political aides, and volunteers will look the other way when the party opposing that wealth transfer plan is affected by election irregularities. Democrats will argue that their ballot harvesting is just reflecting the real will of the majority. Unfortunately, I think they are right.
“The problem with ALL of these theories is... it would take a massive nation wide cover up involving possibly hundreds of people, every single election.”
Or putting the idea out there and then individual cells go and do as they see fit with no communication.
It’s the basic Islamic/ANTIFA/BLM terror model.
No, it would take only a few people.
But this doesn’t account for the millions of votes Biden got. That had to be done by someone or very few, online in real time to change the votes.
I think votes in Arizona were changed in real time.
The truth is in the delay. You figure out the number of votes you need, shut things down, then come up with the ballots somehow.
I’ve never been more depressed in my life compared to what I felt in November 2020. I always thought America could count on one thing, a free and fair election.
But now we know the “why” behind why democrats want no voter IDs, want to keep mail in and early voting etc.
Eventually, a whistleblower will come forward, and we will all see that Trump was right all along, and January 6th was orchestrated by the RINOs and democrats to prevent any investigation of election fraud before the official electoral count.
Mike Pence, IMO, was in on it, as were Bill Barr, McConnell and the others who hate Trump.
I just can’t believe in my heart that God will let this country go to hell. Everything that is happening here and abroad is the result of a fraudulent election in 2020. The description of what’s happened in this country in two years, by Victor David Hansen today
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4113143/posts
says it all.
And BTW, the ballot stuffers didn’t think they needed to do this in New York. Thanks to Lee Zelden we eon the necessary seats to win the House.
The Rats and the entire media apparatus kept Deep Throat’s identity secret for 40 years.
“The problem with ALL of these theories is... it would take a massive nation wide cover up involving possibly hundreds of people, every single election.”
In the swing states there are Republicans involved at various points in the process. You can rant about RINOs and Deep State and never-Trumpers and Bush league and so on but when all of the Republicans who were directly involved in the elections are saying that this widespread fraud didn’t happen you would think at least one of them would talk.
The problem with ALL of these theories is..
I agree. this is just another “theory”...no proof that it actually happended. Reminds me of the holocaust deniers. The say all the evidence is faked and all the testimony of the perpetrators who admitted it and the survivors were coereced/lied...impossible to pull that off.
I thought that until I saw 2000mules.
2000mules shows one strategy.
This particular strategy mentioned in this article gives sense to why people show up at the polls only to discover that they have already voted.
The dems have overlapping strategies. 2000mules and latency are two of them.
Texas, you’ve hit upon something I’ve been thinking. I think I know there are shenanigans afoot, and I don’t think Maricopa was an accident. Scott Walker and Donal Trump are among the legion who’ve gotten hosed by late night ballot dumps. But where are the loose lips? On the other hand, and for example, I think it generally accepted that “Landslide Lyndon” Johnson stole his first Senate race, and that the Daley machine corruptly delivered Illinois for Kennedy in 1960, but to my knowledge there were no whistleblowers as such in those cases, either
You just may want to look in to the past Governor's race concerning Dino Rossi (R) vs Democrat Christine Gregoire, 2004, and the world just watched. And is still watching.
Rossi decided to run in November 2003,[17] but was already facing an uphill battle in terms of money raised, low name identification with voters and trends established by the two prior GOP candidates for governor. The sitting Washington State Attorney General and Rossi's eventual opponent in the general election, Democrat Christine Gregoire, had already raised $1.15 million by December, only weeks after Rossi officially kicked off his campaign.[citation needed] Furthermore, the previous two GOP candidates for governor had lost their campaign bids by 16% and 18.7% in 1996 and 2000.[18]
In the November 2 election, over 2.8 million votes were cast for governor. After the initial vote count, Rossi led Gregoire by 261 votes.[19]
Washington State law required a recount because of the small margin. After the second count, Rossi again led, but by a smaller margin of 42 votes. After a third count, done by hand, Gregoire took a 129-vote lead (expanded to a 133-vote lead after Justice Bridges' decision threw out 4 votes for Rossi).[20]
King County's election department was sued by the Rossi campaign for its handling of ballots, including untracked use of a "ballot-on-demand" printing machine.[21] Even before the election date, the U.S. Department of Justice threatened to sue Washington State for failing to mail military ballots overseas, generally assumed to be Republican votes.[22]
Republican leaders in Washington claimed there were enough disputed votes to change the outcome of the election and sued. On May 25, 2005, the judge hearing the lawsuit ruled that the Party did not provide enough evidence that the disputed votes were ineligible, or for whom they were cast, to enable the court to overturn the election.[23] Rossi did not appeal to the state Supreme Court.[24]
The election is notable as the closest gubernatorial race in the history of the United States and was the subject of the Trova Heffernan book An Election for the Ages.[25]
I used to think like you do.
Then I worked for the government, briefly. I learned that people will lock step this one.
I also work at a labor union headquarters (Well, not lately) and that building is full of more than 100 people who would do this with zeal and passion to get rid of Trump and usher in full dictatorship in the form of an Emperor.
They are organized, focused and driven. I’ve met two groups of about 100 people who will do whatever they are told to.
And then I experienced the gun registration in Connecticut. Everyone, including our side, lined up and took it like a champ. Complied without question - albeit shame on our side. But the police will continue to execute illegal edict and sleep well at night knowing their pension is protected.
Were we ever invaded by China I am thoroughly convinced the lines to capitulate would stretch for miles - for food and shelter for their families.
People can be convinced not to talk.
Accidents happen otherwise you know.
You wouldn’t want that son or daughter of yours to have an unfortunate one, now would you?
No, this is quite possible. Since only key states and precincts are needed, and the prevailing election officials are of a like mind and party (!), they’ll be winning, and keeping their mouths shut to keep the train rolling.
This is the flaw of the ‘anonymous vote’ - you can separate the voter from the ballot, which allows for manipulation. It’s further flawed when attempting to extend the time frame that ballots can be ‘managed’, through mail-in and extended voting periods.
The system has LONG been broken, and is being further compromised. The US is worse than a lot of third-world setups.
What part did you not understand? All it takes is people who have access (the people in charge of a county) to distribute the false ballots, gather them, fill them out for the commies and hold or submit them, then change the addresses back. Why do you think they have problems in non-commie controlled areas? Hint: It’s because it’s harder to do the fraud in areas they do not have total control. It’s all controlled locally! The ballots can be outsourced.
I agree. To believe that there was a massive, nationwide plot that was kept secret to “steal” votes is pushing the boundaries of believable. And that nobody leaked the plot is just not possible.
I agree that it just doesn’t make sense.