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Wyoming Dentist Uses 10mm to stop Grizzly Attack, Wounds self in Leg
Gun Watch ^ | November 24, 2022 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/26/2022 4:31:43 AM PST by marktwain

 

On October, 21, 2022, Wyoming dentist, Dr. Lee Francis, 65 years old, was hunting elk with his 40-year-old son, in the area near Rock Creek, in the Sawtooth Mountains, east of Bondurant, Wyoming.

In this video from KSAL-TV, he gives an interview and explains what happened.

Dr. Francis is an avid hunter and outdoorsman. He successfully collected a large grizzly bear with bow and arrow in 2013, during a hunt, perhaps in Alaska or Canada.

 

Image of archery bear from facebook.

Several attempts to contact Dr. Francis have been unsuccessful.

Dr. Francis had separated from his son when he unintentionally stepped in front of the entrance to a bear den. He saw the fresh dirt, had drawn his Glock 10mm, chambered a round, and was backing away when the bear charged at him out of the den from 10 feet away.

The best interview about the encounter appears to have been in an article at cowboystatedaily.com.  The article says Dr. Francis used 130 grain hardcast bullets in his 10mm Glock.

“He came right at me, and he came on full blast,” the elder Francis said. 

Counting the cartridge already in the chamber, he had 14 rounds loaded with 130 grain hard cast bullets in his Glock. 

“I just remember shooting three or for times, right before he hit me,” he said. “Then I went down on my back.”

(snip)

Hard cast bullets will punch through a bruin’s body, instead of
rapidly expanding and expending their energy in massive, shallow wounds
the way that hollow point bullets do, he said. 

“Hollow points are meant for stopping people, not bears,” he said,
adding that it was also fortunate for him that his weapon was loaded
with hard cast bullets. 

“A hit from a hollow point would have probably just exploded my whole foot,” he said. 

He also said he favors the high-capacity, semi-automatic Glock over magnum revolvers.

130 grain hardcast bullets for a 10mm would be unusual. Perhaps it is a typo or misreading of notes, where another weight of bullet was intended.  Buffalo Bore has a 220 grain hardcast bullets loaded for bear in the 10mm.

Dr. Francis was attempting to fend of the bear with his feet when he accidentally wounded himself.

In the over 123 documented cases where pistols were fired in defense against bears, this correspondent recalls only two where the person firing the pistol wounded themselves.

Coincidentally, both were with 10mm pistols.  Both happened as the defender fell on their back and attempted to fend off the bear with their feet.

The first case was with Kim Woodman who had to shoot a grizzly sow at bad breath distance in 2016. Kim was backing away from the bear when he tripped and went over backwards. He continued to fire, and shot the tip off of the middle toe of his left foot as he shot the bear and attempted to block it with his foot at the same time.

Peace officers train to be able to back up without falling, and failing that, to avoid shooting their legs or feet if they fall backward.

Those techniques can be handy for people who carry pistols as a potential defense against bears. Here is one video on shooting while moving.  Here is one for shooting from your back.  The important thing to practice is not to point the muzzle at your own body, obviously a more difficult task in the middle of a fight for your life.


TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Society
KEYWORDS: 10mm; attack; banglist; bear
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A good thing he was using hardcast bullets.

He says the bullet wound was preferable to being mauled.

1 posted on 11/26/2022 4:31:43 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

He survived, he recovered, betting he learned valuable lessons - this is a win.


2 posted on 11/26/2022 4:34:46 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: marktwain

Guy sounds pretty experienced an well prepared. But yeah, the Buffalo Bore 220 would have been my choice, but perhaps recoil was a factor for him. He’s lucky to be alive.


3 posted on 11/26/2022 4:39:56 AM PST by Obadiah (Calamity Joe Biden)
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To: marktwain

“Bad breath distance” — LOL. I get the picture real clearly.


4 posted on 11/26/2022 4:42:45 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!)
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I suspect he used 180 grain hard-cast bullets, and the reporter misread his notes or misheard the grain weight.

There are no common 130 grain lead bullets for the 10mm.

5 posted on 11/26/2022 4:45:11 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Outside typical personal defense ranges (10 feet) as established by the USMC, 10mm out performs the .45 acp, and the nugget of wisdom pertaining to hollow points is worth noting. I carried a .357 in Alaska opting for a better 2nd shot. The only 44 mag available was a single action. The ergonomics of a “cowboy” style frame is unsuitable for my hand.

Good shooting doc, wishing you a speedy recovery and a successful physical therapy experience.


6 posted on 11/26/2022 4:49:15 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: marktwain

The 10mm happens to be my favorite cartridge. The .40 S&W (Short and Weak) had to be developed because the FBI agent chicks could not handle the 10mm.


7 posted on 11/26/2022 4:54:15 AM PST by MikeSteelBe (The South will be in the right in the next war of Northern aggression.)
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To: marktwain
successfully collected

Huh? I just love the evolution and abuse of the American language. /s

I thought I was still resisting the term ‘harvest’ when referring to hunting. Animals are not crops. Animals are not coins. There’s nothing wrong with the good old fashioned term ‘kill’. Kill is a fine word. It’s simple to spell and say. It’s direct and to the point. It means exactly what it means. There is no ambiguity.

When the company of ladies, we simply should not discuss such things if their feminine sensitivities would be bruised. However, I am partly a modern man, I have no problem with women hunting. Just don’t expect me to field dress their successfully collected harvest. You can call me a feminist if you like. 😂

8 posted on 11/26/2022 4:56:32 AM PST by ConservativeInPA ( Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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To: marktwain

It’s pretty hard to fault someone out in the wilderness for tripping when backing up while being occupied with trying to save his life by shooting at a bear.

Granted, LE are trained to shoot and back up, but I’ll bet it doesn’t include this kind of scenario in the out of doors with uneven terrain and rocks and sticks to trip over.


9 posted on 11/26/2022 4:57:46 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: marktwain; Chode; SkyDancer; Salamander; Carriage Hill; Lockbox; MtnClimber; nascarnation; ...

Ouch !!!


10 posted on 11/26/2022 4:58:02 AM PST by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !7)
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To: marktwain

That would make sense.


11 posted on 11/26/2022 5:00:00 AM PST by Obadiah (Calamity Joe Biden)
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To: marktwain


He didn't even need a gun.
12 posted on 11/26/2022 5:02:39 AM PST by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: ConservativeInPA

If deer exist on Your property. Then You have the right to Harvest them. On state or federal land you kill them.


13 posted on 11/26/2022 5:10:56 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: marktwain

I wouldn’t enter bear country without my Karelian Bear Dog and being armed.


14 posted on 11/26/2022 5:29:12 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: MikeSteelBe

I used to own a 10mm, a Springfield Armory Omega.
I sold it because, at the time, ammo was expensive for it and hard to find.
It handled great, wish I still had it.


15 posted on 11/26/2022 5:33:58 AM PST by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: marktwain

“Dr. Francis was attempting to fend of the bear with his feet when he accidentally wounded himself.”

Uhh, don’t use him as a dentist!


16 posted on 11/26/2022 5:50:20 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Vaquero

“If deer exist on Your property. Then You have the right to Harvest them. ...”


I can’t do this on my property in Montana without a permit.


17 posted on 11/26/2022 5:51:53 AM PST by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: MikeSteelBe

They also tried the G32 Glock .357SIG, and couldn’t handle that one either. I had one many years ago, didn’t like it and sold it.


18 posted on 11/26/2022 6:22:40 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: mabarker1

He looks very distinguished walking with a cane, now.


19 posted on 11/26/2022 6:25:09 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: mabarker1; All

I don’t think bears have a lot of empathy for people who shoot themselves...... but it’s one way of dealing with a bear attack.....


20 posted on 11/26/2022 6:47:37 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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