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Kingston, New York, orders landlords to reduce rent by 15%
Wordpress ^ | November 17, 2022 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 11/17/2022 1:59:10 PM PST by grundle

The city of Kingston, New York, is ordering landlords to reduce their rent by 15%.

Pretty much every economist, even the ones on the left, agree that, in the long run, rent control reduces both the quantity and the quality of rental housing.

Rent control is great for people who already have a rent controlled apartment.

But it’s horrible for people who are looking for an apartment.

The Swedish economist Assar Lindbeck, a housing expert, said that “rent control appears to be the most efficient technique presently known to destroy a city – except for bombing.”

That being said, as a person who does not live in Kingston, I think this is a great experiment to see what the results will be. Will the results here be the same as in other cities that had rent control? Or will they be different? Contrary to popular belief, it was not actually Einstein who first said, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”

Sources:

https://reason.com/2022/11/16/landlords-sue-over-city-mandated-15-percent-rent-cut/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_regulation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_control_in_the_United_States

https://www.businessinsider.com/misattributed-quotes-2013-10


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: communism; control; newyork; rent; rentcontrol
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1 posted on 11/17/2022 1:59:10 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

I wonder what they would think if the citizens of Kingston told them they wanted their taxes lowered by 15%

Like the peasants would ever attempt such an uprising.


2 posted on 11/17/2022 2:00:57 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: grundle

All powerful government can control and destroy everything


3 posted on 11/17/2022 2:01:55 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: grundle

There should be no such thing as income tax.
There should be no such thing as property tax.

Property should be allodial — you own it. You really, really own it. The government isn’t your landlord and doesn’t control your property.

Government revenue should come from tariffs and some a national retail sales tax. And government revenue should be minimal and government should be small and weak.

We’ve done everything incorrectly.


4 posted on 11/17/2022 2:03:31 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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To: grundle
My understanding is that rent control is actually a fiction. In order to get an apartment in such a market, money usually has to change hands in order to get to the top of the list of potential renters.

It even came up in a Seinfeld episode.

5 posted on 11/17/2022 2:04:55 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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To: grundle

FU and the horse you rode in on Kingston.


6 posted on 11/17/2022 2:05:02 PM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: unixfox

How about cutting the salary and benefits of every swinging dik who is on the city payroll by 35%?


7 posted on 11/17/2022 2:05:17 PM PST by Howie66 (Let's Go Brandon!!)
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To: grundle

What’s the definition of fascism again?


8 posted on 11/17/2022 2:08:00 PM PST by cyclotic (Follow 1776rm.com. Fighting for our Constitution. @1776RM on Truth)
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To: grundle

Can you say housing shortage and substandard maintenance? I knew you could.


9 posted on 11/17/2022 2:09:03 PM PST by Codeflier (Screw Ukraine. America is burning, and we need to concentrate on our own collapse taking place.)
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To: grundle

Lots of folks bought into the real estate FOMO and have rentals in Kingston-
A Ghetto/Dump area for decades, boosted a bit by the flight to the country these past few years.

Ulster County and City of Kingston voted for Hochul. Now they’ll get what they voted for.

Those buyers with the free cash should have looked a bit further up the line, maybe Andrew’s Mountain, or formerly sleepy Accord.


10 posted on 11/17/2022 2:09:06 PM PST by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: ClearCase_guy
If the only tariffs/taxes/fees are federal, then we won't really have a republic anymore as all money and power will come from the feds.

I'd rather have 90% of whatever taxes/fees I have to pay to be levied locally, 90% of the rest from the state, and the measly remainder levied by the feds.

Too much power has been ceded to the states and feds because many cities have to beg funds in order to remain solvent.

In California, Prop 13 may limit property taxes, but it hasn't limited taxes overall, and it has turned every city into a chattel slave of the state and feds.

11 posted on 11/17/2022 2:09:27 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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To: grundle

Well, as expected we see that the GOP has become rather fascist since winning the mid-term elections and taking over the House.

(Did I do that right? For it is obvious all the current economic problems are due to the new Congress, although they have not yet been sworn it).


12 posted on 11/17/2022 2:12:05 PM PST by CFW
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To: grundle

Sounds like government seizure without compensation.


13 posted on 11/17/2022 2:12:53 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: grundle

Is it legal for a government to order the setting of prices? Last I looked, we are still a free market economy.


14 posted on 11/17/2022 2:16:28 PM PST by llevrok (Pronouns: Me/myself/& I)
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To: grundle

Socialism, and doomed to fail.


15 posted on 11/17/2022 2:16:54 PM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

My wife and I completely agree.


16 posted on 11/17/2022 2:17:32 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: grundle

So they just ended constitutionally protected contract rights? OH YEAR. Obama signed those away with the porkulus spending bill.
And what will the city do when landlords evicts every renter and puts in a new one at market rate? And soon all rents will now be monthly.


17 posted on 11/17/2022 2:24:46 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: grundle

Great idea! Apply the same principle to gas, bacon and clothing. No more inflation!


18 posted on 11/17/2022 2:28:01 PM PST by FatherofFive (I support Trump. Not the GOP)
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To: grundle

But yet the cost of doing business remains the same.


19 posted on 11/17/2022 2:29:13 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Walk In The Rain So Nobody Can See My Tears)
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To: grundle

You don’t own your property. The government does. It lets you use it, maintain it, pay the insurance and taxes, and get sued when someone slips on the snow.


20 posted on 11/17/2022 2:37:37 PM PST by I want the USA back (Our news media isn't worth camel spit. Neither is the democrat party. H)
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