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The Worst Form of Government
The Pipeline ^ | 12 Sep 2022 | Michael Walsh

Posted on 09/12/2022 5:16:46 AM PDT by Rummyfan

To save the American nation as founded, the first thing we have to do is restore the basic principles of the original American Republic. Most real Americans are familiar with Benjamin Franklin's famous reply to the question of which type of government the Founders gathered in Philadelphia in year 1787 had decided upon, a monarchy or a republic: "A Republic, if you can keep it." Nota bene that the word "democracy" was nowhere mentioned, nor was it ever seriously envisaged by the men meeting at the constitutional convention that year. As Churchill famously observed:

Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’

It has indeed been said. But if by "democracy"—or "our democracy" as the Left is fond of saying, by which they mean their version of "democracy"—we mean a universally enfranchised electorate that includes indigents, welfare cases, teenagers, layabouts, criminals, non-citizens, the unidentified, illegal aliens, and non-taxpayers, then it really is the worst form of government. Because, at that point, it's simply unrestricted mob rule under which the majority votes itself the wealth and possessions of the minority until the monetary and social capital runs out, after which the entire system collapses.

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1 posted on 09/12/2022 5:16:46 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

The Worst Form of Government = Dementia Joe’s “government”.


2 posted on 09/12/2022 5:21:13 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: Rummyfan

I’ve lost track of it, but there is an interesting video on Youtube that makes the case that there are only two types of government:

A republic: the rule of law controls the government and society.
An Oligarchy: Powerful individuals control government and society.

The video walks through other types which appear to be options (communism, socialism, fascism, etc.) but they all show themselves to Oligarchies. They are never what they claim to be but always devolve to a few powerful individuals running things as they wish.

We are supposed to be a republic. But we are an Oligarchy. And they are not going to let us vote our way back to being a republic.


3 posted on 09/12/2022 5:25:25 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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I haven’t seen that video, but it is what I’ve always believed.


4 posted on 09/12/2022 5:27:41 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: Rummyfan

The worst form of government? A kakistocracy blended with a healthy dose of police state thuggery as partnered with oligarchs.... which is what we have now.


5 posted on 09/12/2022 5:32:15 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: ClearCase_guy

Wonderful point. I’ll probably dive into this. Very plausible.


6 posted on 09/12/2022 5:33:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Rummyfan
the first thing we have to do is restore the basic principles of the original American Republic.

Lazy thinking. Among the problems with this is that the basic principles did not withstand the Marxist assault upon them. It took a long time, but all the basic principles that made America so amazing were undermined and corrupted over the past century. If free speech, divided powers, and all the other basic principles of the founding were the rock-solid bulwark against totalitarianism that it was always said to be, then how did we get where we are now? Restoring Humpty-dumpty is a non-starter. Have to rethink how we give birth to freedom in a new world - the fact that the rising totalitarianism will be global makes it a very different challenge than that of 1776.

7 posted on 09/12/2022 5:33:43 AM PDT by TimSkalaBim
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All government is potentially oppressive, which is why it has to be kept strictly in check. Ours is clearly out of control.


8 posted on 09/12/2022 5:36:54 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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> Because, at that point, it’s simply unrestricted mob rule ... <

The Founders carefully crafted the Senate to guard against that. But with the passage of the 17th Amendment, that guard is gone. And it ain’t coming back.

It’s more than just a pity. It’s a slow-motion tragedy.


9 posted on 09/12/2022 5:37:17 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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The Rats constantly use the word democracy because it is close to democrat. And that insinuates legitimacy.


10 posted on 09/12/2022 5:41:47 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: Rummyfan
We no longer have the republic envisioned by the Founders and Constitution. The question that Franklin would ask today is not, "A Republic, if you can keep it" but rather ""A Republic, if you can get it back".
11 posted on 09/12/2022 5:44:59 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: ClearCase_guy

A republic: the rule of law controls the government and society.
An Oligarchy: Powerful individuals control government and society.

The video walks through other types which appear to be options (communism, socialism, fascism, etc.) but they all show themselves to Oligarchies. They are never what they claim to be but always devolve to a few powerful individuals running things as they wish.

We are supposed to be a republic. But we are an Oligarchy. And they are not going to let us vote our way back to being a republic.


most people think republic means “representatives”


12 posted on 09/12/2022 5:58:11 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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But we are an Oligarchy. And they are not going to let us vote our way back to being a republic.z

But we can secede to successd in becoming a repblic again.

13 posted on 09/12/2022 6:08:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

They do not seem to have a choice , this is all taking a spiritual turn ahead , hold on tight


14 posted on 09/12/2022 6:13:36 AM PDT by Callnote (Solid state is the way to go!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

You have to get rid of all the departments and bureaucrats in D.C. and send the money back to the states…

We are not free but ruled


15 posted on 09/12/2022 6:19:44 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: HighSierra5

Yup.


16 posted on 09/12/2022 6:25:05 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: TimSkalaBim
Excellent and very important points. At the very least there have to be more checks placed on power, at all levels. Term limits are essential, but is just one of many, many things that have to change.

As an incomplete but initial list I would place:

1. Strict irreversible term limits, with a cap on the total number of cumulative years in all offices combined (NO CAREER POLITICIANS, EVER). This should include heads of agencies etc., (e.g. no Anthony Fauci type careers).

2. Each and every agency has to have hiring done by a revolving citizens committee and cannot do their own hiring, ever. It's an essential step to prevent a deep state bureaucracy.

3. No guaranteed government pensions. Every government employee should be on a 401K type plan like the rest of us.

4. All government salaries, at all levels should be determined by a public vote.

5. No city or region in the nation can have more than 2 government agencies, and the locations of those agencies should reflect the regional diversity of the nation.

6. Absolutely no insider trading of any type. Those holding federal office cannot hold or trade securities (etc.) unless done within a private trust that they have no input into or intimate knowledge of.

7. Voting must be done in person, except for the military, with at least 2 official forms of identification. Knowingly participating in fraudulent voting at any level is an automatic unappealable year in prison, at minimum.

These are just an initial list. There are many, many more things that have to be addressed and codified. In general, being in public office should have very, very few perks, and the fundamental principle that all in public office are employees who serve at the pleasure of the citizens needs to be front row and center and in the face of anyone who wants to pursue public office at any level. The stature of politicians should be no more than anyone else in society.

17 posted on 09/12/2022 6:27:23 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: ClearCase_guy

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.


18 posted on 09/12/2022 6:29:33 AM PDT by motor_racer ("We're gonna punish our enemies, and we're gonna reward our friends" - Barak Obama)
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To: TimSkalaBim

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams

For more: https://eagleeyeopener.com/quotes-of-the-founding-fathers-on-the-importance-of-a-moral-society/


19 posted on 09/12/2022 6:33:11 AM PDT by griswold3 (Afghanistan withdrawal disaster was the US Suez Canal moment. )
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To: Rummyfan
One of my favorite Benjamin Franklin quotes concerning "democracy" is below:

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner"

20 posted on 09/12/2022 6:34:11 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (4,054,847 users on Truth Social)
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