Posted on 08/29/2022 4:55:20 PM PDT by algore
My local Krogar grocery employee told me today that ID Scanning would become mandatory on 8/31 to buy alcohol
I tried nicely to explain to her that it would violate my privacy rights and that it would be illegal under my state law.
She told me not so nicely that she would enjoy refusing to sell me alcohol in a few days.
I went to a few other stores and talked to the employees and they said pretty much the same thing. None of the workers were told that it was not legally required, probably so they could be thrown under the bus.
I had the same problem with Rite Aid a last year ago until I was forced to sue them.
If anyone has a Kroger store near them, please let them know that this is not OK.
Kroger has had lots of data breaches so it is proven they cannot safeguard your data that they never needed in the first place
Hopefully I have done enough to discourage this new policy (and I expect to sue), but if more people who believe in privacy let them know it may be helpful
What was the legal argument should I need such?
Wawa was trying this in my area.
I called corporate and told them they do not need my name, address, height, eye color and donor status to sell me products requiring ID, they only needed to look at my ID to verify my age.
They first tried to tell me that information was not captured, but I responded that I have used license scanners and EVERYTHING is in that scan.
They seem to have backed off as they are no longer demanding to scan my license.
Your argument using the bill of rights is fines, except those rights don’t apply to any organization other than the government.
Just as one does not have protected speech in a corporation, they are not bound by the fourth amendment.
Stick with the security angle. You will have more success with that.
Ours in Florida does this already. I’m unsure if the info is kept or is used for verification. I’d imagine it’s to protect the store. If a 20 year old shows a fake ID, it doesn’t matter, the clerk can be fined or charged and the store is questioned if not worse. If people would have never used fake ID, this wouldn’t need to be an issue. Blame the criminals.
They will refuse the sale then. Nobody has the right to buy anything.
Again....what state?
When were you asked for Social Security # for ID purposes ?
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I have had a few places scan my drivers license, haven’t given it much thought. What exactly is on that encoding? And, yes, what are they doing with it?
Only what they are allowed to see and can use for the transaction.
But all this is stored on some type of database somewhere...
The magnets inside a defunct hard drive are excellent for this. They are very powerful
when they scan your license they capture EVERYTHING that is on it.
https://idscan.net/starting-january-1-2023-nevada-will-require-id-scanning-for-tobacco-sales/
HIPAA applies when I purchased alcohol.
My wife wrote the shopping list (Prescription) and she is an MD!
Nothing magnetic on newer cards.
darn near every application I fill out, whether employment or credit or cable TV or you name it, asks for SS#. That's a form of ID in my book.
Get a fake ID just for these occasions.
State should not matter. privacy is, or is not
As far as I understand this is a blanket Kroger policy. I believe it is wrong in whatever State they do business in.
DEFINITELY bring a loaded cart, so's you can abandon it at the register.
In front of a manager, hopefully.
Can’t you shop elsewhere?
I haven’t shopped at a Kroger, in years.
Good luck with your quest.
There are 36 US States and Territories without any Kroger locations. Aug 22, 2022
Narrows it down a little.
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