Posted on 07/27/2022 11:50:14 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
In theory, the BBC is supposed to be independent of the British government because the network is funded by fees paid by viewers, but most everyone understands that the BBC and the UK government are partners in narrative control, regardless of protestations to the contrary. And for evidence of that close relationship, look no further than a story about monitoring Russian submarin activity that appeared in almost identical form on the BBC’s website as a site run by the Royal Navy.
Jimmy and America’s comedian Kurt Metzger discuss how the only “state-affiliated” media outlets that get censored by social media platforms are inevitably “affiliated” with states the United States has designated as antagonists.
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I dont use TASS personally, but I’ve seen plenty of talk here that’s basically “TASS bad”, but Ukrainian state- affiliated outlets, “good.”
So what’s the answer? Should Germany and other countries censor RT or censor RT and BBC or censor neither?
Should the US censor?
Yeah, like NPR and PBS are ‘independent’?................................
News people are opportunists and, well, lazy. Always easier to copy someone else’s work than do your own. When I was a military journalist I used to send feature stories I wrote to the local daily. The military beat reporter would replace my by-line with his own and publish it without changing a word.
So you’re saying none should be trusted?
So then censor no one and let the people fact check annd decide what to believe?
During the Cold War, I’d give you a different answer, since I look at track record of the news outlets, rather than what I’m told to believe. Similar to vaccines, by the way.
Pfft. None of them. They are all pretty much the same, including the media outlets we have here in the USA.
All of them are TASS and Pravda.
The degree of censorship regarding the Ukraine war is off the charts but in many ways it doesn’t matter. Russian victories will produce European inflation and power shortages that can’t be hidden. When it comes to America we’ll know who to blame.
They are all owned by the same people.
Big deal - about the only thing we get is fake news received directly from libtards 24-7 every day of the year like freakin’ clockwork programmed robots never wavering from propping up their libtard buddies and shaming their enemies for them. It’s a nauseating uneducated Marxist crap show I don’t know how people stand it
And they all worship the same people, too...and it isn’t God.
No entity should censor and all should be able to read and know the source.
Freedom matters.
“No entity should censor and all should be able to read and know the source.
Freedom matters.”
I use 25 different sites (both sides) every day. I find British sources to be among the worst, followed closely by U.S. sources.
We are very fortunate to now have access to Telegram channels which censor nothing.
And as far as “Tass bad; pravda bad” is concerned, I have found them to be very accurate. I posted the story about Ukraine trying to bribe Russian pilots to bring a plane to them. The story was from Tass. The ignorant on FR kept calling it B.S. Of course it was completely accurate right down to attributing the development of the plan to Mi6.
It’s too bad Freepers do not use Telegram channels. There would be a lot less animosity here if more people were aware of the truth.
Speaking of which according to one of the channels I follow Russia began their offensive this morning.
Please begin to post content from Telegram regularly and lavishly in order to give examples.
Needed. Thank you.
One of my kids did an internship at a local paper. I was surprised at how much of what we see is copy/pasted from press releases.
PBS NewsHour correspondent Simon Ostrovsky confirms the effectiveness of missile strikes from Russia
In particular, we are talking about a missile strike on the command post of the battalion of the 59th separate motorized rifle brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on July 17 . So, according to the information he received from the rescuers, the death toll is listed as about 40 people.
The correspondent claims that the Russian armed forces have the exact coordinates of the bases and warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which allows them to deliver pinpoint strikes that cause great damage. Over the past two weeks, 129 rockets were fired at Nikolaev and its environs.
The offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine towards the village of Andreevka across the Ingulets River failed.
Airborne and aviation forces multiplied the attackers by zero. According to radio and mobile interception, the enemy will continue to attempt an offensive, also one soldier talking to his father said that they had to steal an excavator from a local ATP for faster burial of the fallen in battle, complains about a wild stench and that the bodies of brothers are heavily fragmented
Reports that from the very early morning a very serious battle has been going on in the direction: Marinka, Krasnogorsk, Avdeevka. Information is coming in about the most powerful artillery Fire in these minutes. All types of weapons are being sent in the direction of the positions and infrastructure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. groups of the Allied Forces on the outskirts of Avdeevka. In general, we are observing the situation by the evening, it will become clear what’s what!!!
From the fronts they report that there is an advance of our troops in several sectors, including in the direction of Peski and Krasnogorovka. The Ukrainian Militants are suffering heavy losses. The Russian military, with the help of UAVs near Kharkov, discovered the fortified area of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, after which it was hit by self-propelled guns
Antonovsky bridge across the Dnieper in Kherson was damaged after a night attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Traffic on the bridge is closed - Deputy head of the military-civilian administration of the Kherson region Kirill Stremousov. (Will need to be repaired; but still standing.)
The attack on Peski has begun. Today, on the front, adjacent directly to the city limits of Donetsk, the offensive of Russian troops began.
In particular, units of the Somalia battalion and the 11th regiment of the NM DPR are advancing on Peski. The Armed Forces of Ukraine were taken seriously, Ukrainian neo-Nazis are suffering heavy losses
The fall of Peski—whenever that happens—would also finally remove the protection from the western flank of Avdeevka, allowing the Allied forces finally to contemplate cutting off the unimpeded supply route between Avdeevka and Konstantinovka through Orlovka (as on the map). This would be the final nail in Avdeevka stronghold’s coffin
Ukraine has lost control of its vaunted Ingulets river “bridgehead” at Andreevka in the Krivoy Rog-Kherson theatre of the conflict and was forced to retreat, suffering massive losses, after an offensive by Russian VDV troops supported by a fierce artillery barrage
”Our correspondent is with the artillerymen in the Donetsk direction. Artillery is underway. The mood of the fighters is excellent, the thing that everyone has been waiting for so long is starting - the offensive.”
The following is about the Ukraine counter offensive in Kherson:
Update of the day from the Kherson front On the last day, the Ukrainian Armed Forces heading towards Kherson lost:
- 34 people killed and injured;
- a UAV
- five armored vehicles
- a T-64 tank
(Here is the report on the Ukrainian Kherson counter offensive from the day before....On the last day, the Ukrainian Armed Forces heading towards Kherson lost:
- killed and wounded more than 160 people;
- ten UAVs
- eight armored vehicles
- three T-72 tanks
An artillery battalion of the 59th Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was liquidated following an attack with a high-precision cannon. The loss of personnel and equipment exceeded 70%
According to our information, this morning, a precision airstrike by the Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed the command post of the 56th Separate Motorized Infantry Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near the settlement. Netailovo, northwest of Donetsk.
Eighteen management officers and unit commanders of this brigade were killed
Today, in the Donetsk People’s Republic, they finally carried out the death penalty for mercenaries from Great Britain and Morocco (E. Aslin, Sh. Pinner, S. Bragim) by execution
Thank you.
Helpful to provide link for the article or post,
and quotation marks and attributions in the body of information or article to assist in navigation for those new to Telegram as an information source.
Again, much thanks, please do continue. N.
There should not be any agency that creates policies, and makes it their purpose in life to decide what folks can say, how, when, to whom, and where.
https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-1/
“or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press”
But who cares today?
It's just a silly old document. We are smarter than that and times change. (sarc)
***Besides, government can grow in people, budget and powers a lot more by shitting on the US Constitution than actually enforcing it.***
Examples: privacy, warrantless searches, quarantines and lock downs...
Yes, today even if they do not claim such, the folks that raise their right hand to defend the US Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic are in reality the US Constitutions worst enemy (non DOD federal government). If you think that is an over exaggeration, name me someone that violates your privacy more than the US government?
Why deal in censorship? Just post the article with a note saying “this article comes from RT which is affiliated with the government of the Russian Federation” or some such...
Missing any of that, no dice.
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