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Levin: the birther tactic is crap, here's the relevant statute
247Sports ^ | Jan 7th, 2016

Posted on 02/28/2022 12:40:27 PM PST by conservative98

WVUfan222:

Levin: the birther tactic is crap, here's relevant statute:

https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/Board/103782/Contents/Merk-Levin-the-birther-tactic-is-crap-heres-relevant-statute-71403365/

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8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth....

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

RDMercEER:

It didn't matter where Obama was born, it doesn't matter where Ted Cruz was born, it didn't matter where John McCain was born, it didn't matter where George Romney was born. The phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time. If one of your parents was a US citizen, which is the case in all four examples, you are a natural born US citizen.

This has been Levin's contention all along. Dishonest leftists, such was Pruto and whoisyourdaddy may want to do a little research, before spouting our their Alinskyite lies. Can either of you provide a link where Mark Levin said Obama couldn't be President because he wasn't a natural born US citizen?

I still don't think Obama was born in Hawaii, but it is a moot point, because at least one parent was a US citizen (and with the possibility of Frank Marshall Davis being his real dad, perhaps both). By birth status, he has every right to be the president.

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To: NEMDF

Nancy Pelosi only fraudulently claimed Obama to be a natural born citizen to Hawaii, curiously enough.

The other 49 states got certifications leaving that part out.


41 posted on 02/28/2022 1:07:23 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: conservative98

Then how can Kamala “Heels up” Harris become president?

5.56mm


42 posted on 02/28/2022 1:07:23 PM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: Chicory

It’s the hill some have chosen to die on.


43 posted on 02/28/2022 1:07:28 PM PST by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: conservative98
The same goes for Sen. Barry Goldwater, the GOP’s nominee in 1964, who was born in Arizona. The problem? Arizona wasn’t a state yet.

Not an example because it doesn't prove what you wish it to prove. Arizona was a US territory and Goldwater's parents were US citizens.

But here’s the bottom line: Courts, based on long-standing precedent derived from as far back as English common law and the First Congress, would be all but certain to say that Cruz, as the son of an American mother, qualifies as a “natural born citizen” eligible to serve as the commander-in-chief.

"Courts" are routinely full of sh*t, and often instructing us to believe ridiculous things.

"Courts" are the "expert fallacy." They aren't "experts" and they don't know what the hell they are talking about.

44 posted on 02/28/2022 1:08:45 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: conservative98

Levin is wrong
Citing a statute when it is being used in direct opposition to the Constitution? Nada!

He knows this, too


45 posted on 02/28/2022 1:08:46 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They’re excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: conservative98

....Assuming that his father was a citizen at the time of Madar’s birth, the
Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 controls Madar’s citizenship status. That law
provided that several categories of individuals “shall be nationals and citizens of the United
States at birth,” including:

a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its
outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or
periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable
service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may
be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragra

http://appellatelaw-nj.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Madar-v.-Unites-States-Citizenship-and-Immigration-Services.pdf


46 posted on 02/28/2022 1:10:19 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Sacajaweau

It was a fig leaf to distract from Obama’s ineligibility, which Obama voted for and it says TWO citizen parents.


47 posted on 02/28/2022 1:10:44 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Scarlett156
So either he is foreign born as noted in his college app OR he was born in Hawaii.

Hawaiian law provides for the children of residents to get Hawaiian birth certificates regardless of where the children are born, and therefore a Hawaiian birth certificate does not actually prove birth in the US.

It proves birth to a Hawaiian resident, and that is all it proves.

48 posted on 02/28/2022 1:11:00 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Flavious_Maximus

-—still an Indonesian——yeah that’s always been my concern. He had to be an Indonesian citizen to go to school there. His Mom snuck him back into Hawaii so he could go to school an Punahou HS. Punahou is in the same neighborhood as where his Gramma’s apt is/was. If he has a real Hawaiian birth certificate it should have been corrected to show the name change, if there actually was one. That has to be the reason for the fake one-—and that’s all FRAUD for any number of reasons.


49 posted on 02/28/2022 1:11:58 PM PST by OldWarBaby
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To: Scarlett156
His so-called birth cert says he was born in Hawahawahawaii.

Which one?

I have seen photos of all three of his genuine birth certificates.

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50 posted on 02/28/2022 1:14:08 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: conservative98; Admin Moderator
Ugh, the more I look at it, this whole article/post is utter crap.

It is a link to some argument on a completely different website that happened way back in 2016. It doesn't quote Levin, nor does it provide a link to anything he actually said. It's just some chuckleheads on some other sports-related website having an argument and attributing some non-specific positions on birtherism to Levine without any specifics or support.

Should be deleted.

51 posted on 02/28/2022 1:15:13 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Are you sure that was immigration law at the time?


52 posted on 02/28/2022 1:15:29 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: conservative98

It is my understanding that if you were born elsewhere and have dual citizenship as a result, or even the option of it, you are considered to have an allegiance to two nations rather than the one, and are thus disqualified from the Presidency.

Is that not the case?


53 posted on 02/28/2022 1:15:57 PM PST by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: rolling_stone

On August 4, 1961, at the age of 18, Dunham gave birth to her first child, Barack Obama


54 posted on 02/28/2022 1:16:14 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: fireman15

He wrote that himself too. He went to great lengths to keep his BC under wraps at the time. Supposedly people were murdered that had access to his passport info and BC.


55 posted on 02/28/2022 1:17:58 PM PST by dandiegirl (BOBBY m)
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To: conservative98

Kamala Harris is NOT a natural born citizen. Neither of her parents were U.S. citizens when she was born.


56 posted on 02/28/2022 1:19:26 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: conservative98

“It is the year before the year before the election.”

I’m thinking realistically - election year or not, outside of a handful of people, nobody cares and it’s meaningless, having no impact or meaning in the real world.
Not that it’s of any concern that some are into it, but to me it’s just weird that anybody is even still rehashing it.


57 posted on 02/28/2022 1:19:37 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
That being said, I 100% agree with the idea that "natural born citizen = citizen at birth, for all the reasons that have been stated exhaustively here for more than a decade.

And how do you jive this notion with the conditions with which some citizens have to comply to retain citizenship?

(Residency requirements and so forth.)

I know I could have gone overseas and never came back, and I would still have US Citizenship, but these "statute" based citizens would get their citizenship revoked for doing that.

Seems to me conditional citizenship isn't natural citizenship.

58 posted on 02/28/2022 1:20:14 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Flavious_Maximus

And Brennan had the master customs/immigration DB hacked to cover up the exit or entry from/to Indonesia logging OBOZO’S citizenship as Indonesian. He was rewared with the CIA director spot.


59 posted on 02/28/2022 1:21:13 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: fireman15

You are talking about “The Law of Nations.” It was the book that the founding fathers used when defining the phase natural born citizen. A funny side note, George Washington owes the library of New York something like 200k in late fees because he never returned that specific book. They are still keeping track of it,(more for fun than anything else.)


60 posted on 02/28/2022 1:21:43 PM PST by D Rider ( )
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