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Senate to "Shelve" Build Back Bolshevik Bill Democrats Plot Nuking the Filibuster to Take Charge of Voting Laws Throughout Country
Ace of Spades ^ | 12/15/2021 | ace

Posted on 12/15/2021 10:36:03 AM PST by Mount Athos

So they're shelving the bolshevikization of the economy, but will instead "aggressively" focus on the bolshevikization of elections instead.

I hope -- pray, really -- that Republicans have forty-one votes to filibuster that nightmare. But who knows what the "reasonable" Republicans might decide to in the service of Collegiality.

And I have to tell you: I think the "rules change" discussed here is a suspension of the filibuster rule for a vote on a federal takeover of state election laws.

"Schumer is still holding out hope for action on voting rights this year, multiple sources tell us. They are hoping for agreement on a rules change between four moderates who have been meeting -- Tester, Kaine, King and Manchin"

All four of those people are Democrats -- well, except for King, a Maine "Independent" who caucuses with Democrats.

So they're not huddling with Republicans working on a compromise.

No, they're scheming about a "rule change," with only Democrats involved.

What could that be other than a nuclear option vote on the filibuster?

And yeah, I did all of that speculating pointlessly, because it is now reported: they're pressuring Manchin to agree to the nuclear option for a "voting rights" bill.

"Senate Democrats are escalating pressure on Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) to get behind using the "nuclear option" to change the filibuster and break a months-long stalemate on voting rights legislation."

Manchin has previously resisted these demands. I don't know of a reason why he'd suddenly give in, now that he's sort of calling the shots on the Democrat side of the Senate, but who knows, maybe he will decide to be magnanimous in victory.

Clarification: They would only need Democrat votes to nuke the filibuster.

It would work like this (sort of, I'm shaky on the exact process): They would present a motion stating that the filibuster will be set aside. The parlimentarian would rule the motion out-of-order. But then they would vote to overrule her ruling, which only takes a simple majority. If they have all fifty Democrats voting, Kumala would finally be Positioned for Success to cast the tiebreaking vote to overrule the parlimentarian and set the filibuster aside, or end it.

I assume what they're pitching Manchin is the idea of keeping the filibuster generally -- he's opposed to scrapping it -- but just suspending it for this one Very Special Vote Because Reasons.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: filibuster

1 posted on 12/15/2021 10:36:03 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Biden Actually Said It — ‘The struggle is about who gets to COUNT the vote’…


2 posted on 12/15/2021 10:40:08 AM PST by G Larry (The "Racism" charge is code for "No Intelligent Argument")
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To: Mount Athos

Biden Actually Said It — ‘The struggle is about who gets to COUNT the vote’…


3 posted on 12/15/2021 10:40:08 AM PST by G Larry (The "Racism" charge is code for "No Intelligent Argument")
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To: Mount Athos

Good job Mitch! If it was not for you, and only you, the Communist Party would not have passed the fake Infrastructure debt bill. Biden would have imploded completely and the Communist party would have “shut down” the Federal government a couple of months ago and been forced to deal with the massive debt and lack of legally required fiscal Federal budgets ever since. This Steal All Elections Bill now being pushed would never have seen the light of day either.


4 posted on 12/15/2021 10:41:15 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Mount Athos

John Roberts will declare the states have no standing to challenge the federal takeover of state elections.


6 posted on 12/15/2021 10:49:03 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: Mount Athos

To make elections LESS transparent and reduce the integrity in these times when everyone doesn’t trust elections will blow up like a nuke.


7 posted on 12/15/2021 10:55:11 AM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: Mount Athos

The states will fight this with historic ferocity.


8 posted on 12/15/2021 11:12:42 AM PST by lurk (u)
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To: lurk

Some are clamoring for it.


9 posted on 12/15/2021 11:59:59 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Section 4 of Article I authorizes congress to do probably 90% of what the rats want.

The fear in 1787 was that the states wouldn’t participate in federal elections.


10 posted on 12/15/2021 1:46:36 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; NFHale; LS; campaignPete R-CT; TexasGurl24; ...

5 alarm ***king fire, Manchin allegedly discussing whether he’ll agree to the nuclear option to pass the Reverend Warlock Election Theft enabling and democrat gerrymandering bill.

Broke butt better is mostly just money, this is serious.


11 posted on 12/15/2021 2:22:42 PM PST by Impy ("We didn't steal the election, we swear!!!" - Sincerely, The Election Thieves )
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To: Mount Athos
You now live in a communist country.
You can expect these draconian proposals, plans, laws, rules, & actions...

Clearly, the Aamerican sheeple have decided that it just doesn't matter...

There will be thousands of these draconian proposals, plans, laws, rules, & actions over the next several years...
Until 100% of the sheeple get their heads straight and follow the communist party line...

Our beloved communist masters only have to schedule more stimulus or welfare checks and the sheeple are fine with anything our masters do or say...

Bow down!... Obey!... Snitch!...
Get used to it or do something significant about it...

12 posted on 12/15/2021 3:50:15 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: Impy

Trial Balloon goes Poop
As Dems plot filibuster reform to pass voting rights, Sinema says via spokesman she still supports keeping 60-vote threshold “to protect the country from repeated radical reversals in federal policy”


13 posted on 12/15/2021 8:09:23 PM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: Impy
Broke butt better is mostly just money, this is serious.

Exactly - this is the most dangerous legislation in my lifetime

14 posted on 12/15/2021 8:12:46 PM PST by 11th_VA (Stolen elections have consequences.)
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To: TexasGurl24; LS; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

I might be able to sleep tonight after reading that.


15 posted on 12/15/2021 8:52:35 PM PST by Impy ("We didn't steal the election, we swear!!!" - Sincerely, The Election Thieves )
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To: Mount Athos

Wondering whether they are foolish enough to think they can pass a law that puts the Federal Government in charge of Federal Elections.

If I remember correctly, the Constitution states that Federal Elections are for the States to control.

You would have to have a Constitutional Amendment, Mr. Schumer, to change that to control of centralized government.

Good Luck with that, you Lunatic.


16 posted on 12/15/2021 9:05:14 PM PST by Maris Crane
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To: Maris Crane

In practice, the constitution effectively only means what the supreme court says it means. And they have been ignoring what it really means for a very long time.


17 posted on 12/15/2021 10:02:12 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Impy

“Shelve,” not ended.

Here is how I think they try to play this: move on “voting rights” to federalize elections. This will fail. But it will allow them to shift attention away from Build Back Boondoggle.

Then, in a couple of months, they return, taking out a few more goodies from BBB and get Manchin-on-a-Hill and Enema to sign on. Trust me, they are already there-—they just need as much cushion from “conservative” votes to survive BBB in their states.


18 posted on 12/16/2021 6:02:31 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: Impy
>> They are hoping for agreement on a rules change between four moderates who have been meeting -- Tester, Kaine, King and Manchin" All four of those people are Democrats -- well, except for King, a Maine "Independent" who caucuses with Democrats. So they're not huddling with Republicans working on a compromise. <<

Wasn't Kyrsten Sinema supposed to be one of those "principled moderates", who was holding out? What happened? She's not on the list of people they're "negotiating" with here. Either she caved and will vote for it, or she signaled she will vote against it no matter what.

19 posted on 12/16/2021 7:42:38 AM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Biden? Yes We Can!)
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