Posted on 12/06/2021 11:37:04 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
Here is shocking hidden camera footage from inside a forced COVID internment camp in Australia.
In this leaked footage the Aussie officials warn the female prisoner that if she walks off her balcony onto the path next to her confinement shelter it’s a $5,000 fine.
This is Australia. This is what Democrats would do to Americans in a second if they could.
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
You have no idea what is and isn’t productive.
I’m the one doing this. I know what is messing us up. And this crap is messing us up.
I’m sorry you don’t like it. But it’s a fact.
It’s not something we can just wish away. This dishonesty screws us.
I’m wondering how many cases of COVID occurred in the territory, how many of those required hospitalization, and how many deaths there have been.
Do you happen to have these numbers?
Thanks.
L
Are you going to pretend you do?
When I see people asking "Why doesn't the Prime Minister stop this?"
I think explaining that he doesn't have the constitutional power to do so matters.
The number of people on FR who seem to simultaneously accuse the Australian PM of being a tyrant but who also seem to want him to just throw out the Australian constitution has really been quite surprising.
And on a site like this, I think it's worse because it means people want to blame a conservative for the problems being created by socialists. I'm not sure that's really something FR should be part of. I want the socialists held to account.
The Northern Territory has had 297 COVID cases throughout the pandemic, and 1 death linked to COVID.
I don't have specific figures for hospitalisations.
Very low numbers. They've worked very hard to keep it that way, because their hospital system is so limited.
They currently have 53 active cases - so about 18% of their total cases are active - 234 people have recovered.
And it's not a waste of time. You weren't the one making phonecalls and having to deal with the person on the other end's false understandings. And it might surprise you how often when we asked where they came from, FR was the answer.
It's not the only place, but it is a significant one.
Since I started addressing that, that problem has reduced. Frustrating as it is to spend this time, it is saving time in the long run, and helping to make things easier. And not just for me.
I just did a word count on your in-forum comments since December 2 and the total is ca. 8,000 words. So yeah, you’re in the tens of thousands, easily.
Nice to see somebody who actually does try to fact check.
Maybe you’re right - I’m not going to waste time counting. But it would surprise me.
If so, I wish I would write that many words that easily when I’m doing journal articles.
Close to it. They were all very close to independent states before Australia federated in 1901 and they wrote the Constitution to ensure that that status continued.
The Commonwealth government (the formal name for the federal government) has power over only those areas specifically and explicitly given to it in Section 51 of the Constitution. In any area where this has not been done explicitly, the states remain sovereign.
One of those areas where the state remains sovereign is that of public health. The Commonwealth cannot overrule any decision relating to public health by a state government. And that is what relevant in terms of the pandemic.
Territories are slightly different - theoretically the Commonwealth does have some power to overrule the governments of the two large self-governing territories, but since they were granted self-government (the NT in 1978, the ACT in 1988) the High Court of Australia (which is the body that 'interprets' the Constitution) has consistently ruled they needed to be treated like states for most purposes and the Commonwealth's government ability to intervene is extremely limited.
One more question. What’s the total population of the territory involved?
Thanks
L
About 250,000 people. In an area close to twice the size of Texas.
1 death out of 250,000 people and they’re doing this?
That’s insane.
L
They would argue doing this is the reason they’ve only had 300 cases and 1 death.
My state of Victoria has had the 'worst' results in terms of COVID in Australia - more deaths overall, and more deaths per capita. By world standards, our numbers have still been very low.
In the NT had had the same proportion of deaths linked to COVID Victoria versus population had had, that number would be 50 - not 1.
Whether it justifies what they've done or not, I can understand their concern.
Okay, I understand more now and appreciate your explanation. Please understand that your system is difficult to comprehend as an American because to me, it seems that Australia is more like a series of different Countries. At the end of the day though, the problem as I see it is that there is a lack of continuity in terms of freedom. It’s painful to see what is happening to Australians (despite your efforts to explain your system) because at the end of the day, it’s Australians…not Queenslanders or people of Darwin. As much as I disagree with the Californians or New Yorkers who seem to embrace a totalitarian system, I don’t want to see them suffer under the tyrants they elect, either.
Does everyone that have been in close contact have to go to a camp?
Because there is a small group of FReepers that are pushing a false narrative for their own reasons. Think of people like Anthony Fauci but without the cushy government job.
In the case of the isolated indigenous communities which have been the focus of so much attention, the primary reason people were moved to Howard Springs was so they would be close to a hospital if needed rather than hundreds of miles from one.
“Because we actually have a system of government where we don’t need to”
A government is made up of other people...and they can and do change things when they feel like it, little pieces of paper be damned. It’s a really BIG reason you don’t allow mass immigration into your country: those people have no foot in the past, and no reason not to change what went before.
Good luck having it all hold together.
“America has its own history as a British prison colony”
Those of us descended from the original settlers of Virginia, the Carolinas and especially Oglethorpe’s Georgia colony are um, well aware of that.
There’s a reason a lot of those people started shooting at British administrators and troops about 50 years later. They didn’t remember them all that fondly...
You might wanna read up on the Regulator Movement.
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