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1330: Roger Mortimer, usurper
ExecutedToday.com ^ | November 29 | Headsman

Posted on 11/29/2021 9:48:55 AM PST by CheshireTheCat

On this date in 1330, Roger Mortimer’s three-year run as de facto ruler of England ended with a rope at Tyburn.

Mortimer was a key figure in the Despenser War — a revolt of nobles against King Edward II and the king’s hated-by-nobles right hand Hugh Despenser.

That war failed and landed Mortimer in the Tower. Then, things really got interesting.

Mortimer escaped his cell in 1323 and fled to France. There he took up with King Edward’s own wife, Queen Isabella, when the latter came to court on some state business.

This was, needless to say, quite a scandalous arrangement — but hey, Isabella had seen royal cuckolding right in her own family before.

So the adulterous lovebirds settled in to canoodle and set about planning some serious homewrecking.

Both Isabella and Mortimer are by every appearance among the most outstanding personalities of their day, and they had ambition to match their considerable personal gifts.

In the autumn of 1326, they invaded England and won a swift victory as those disaffected nobles from the recent wars declared for the usurpers. This time, Hugh Despenser was put to death.

Edward didn’t fare that much better. By the next January, he had been forced to abdicate in favor of his 14-year-old son, which in reality meant ceding power to his ex and her lover. And you thought your divorce settlement was bad.

In the long tradition of rival heads of state being disposed of, Edward II was, well, disposed of: strangled in captivity later that same year (allegedly! there is some doubt as to whether he really died in 1327), and given a state funeral that put Roger Mortimer into a bogus public display of mourning...

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1 posted on 11/29/2021 9:48:55 AM PST by CheshireTheCat
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To: CheshireTheCat

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2 posted on 11/29/2021 9:53:01 AM PST by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: CheshireTheCat

Edward II was a flaming homosexual.


3 posted on 11/29/2021 9:53:23 AM PST by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: rfp1234

And his lover was defenestrated....................


4 posted on 11/29/2021 9:58:50 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: CheshireTheCat

I heard they killed Edward with a red-hot poker up the rectum, so the cause of death wouldn’t be obvious.


5 posted on 11/29/2021 10:11:12 AM PST by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Real life Game of Thrones stuff minus the dragons.


6 posted on 11/29/2021 10:13:39 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Those wacky inbred British aristocrats.


7 posted on 11/29/2021 10:14:13 AM PST by twister881
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To: CheshireTheCat

People were crazy back in those days.


8 posted on 11/29/2021 10:17:25 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 2 days away from outliving Holly Dunn)
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To: rfp1234

For that reason some suspect that Mortimer was the actual father of the warrior king Edward III.


9 posted on 11/29/2021 10:21:35 AM PST by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: shadowlands1960

I am a very distant relative of Edward III. They could use me as a DNA test if they wanted.

His son, Thomas, was the ancestor whose line we’re from, and, as he was murdered by Richard II, the line isn’t very famous.

:)


10 posted on 11/29/2021 10:28:16 AM PST by Conan the Librarian (Conan the Sailing Librarian)
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To: rfp1234
I'm not sure we know how "flaming" he was. He sired at least one illegitimate child before his marriage. Four children were born during his marriage to Isabella, all of whom are believed to be his.

His relationship with Piers Gaveston was very odd, though.

The (very historically inaccurate) movie Braveheart depicts Edward II as a flaming homosexual, and purports to show him being cuckolded by Wallace, who then informs his father (Edward I "Longshanks") on his deathbed that he (Wallace) is the real father of Longshanks' heir.

That whole subplot is ridiculous, since Isabella was a nine-year-old girl living in France when Wallace was executed.

11 posted on 11/29/2021 10:32:25 AM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: shadowlands1960

Edward III was ten years old when his mother and Mortimer became lovers.


12 posted on 11/29/2021 10:35:05 AM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Campion

Thanks. Most blockbuster historical movies are indeed inaccurate.


13 posted on 11/29/2021 10:35:32 AM PST by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: Conan the Librarian

Gloucester is famous to those who know their Shakespeare.. his wife Eleonore has an entire scene with John of Gaunt in Richard II. The murder of Gloucester is also famous in that it was the cause of the suspended duel between Mowbray and Bolinbgbroke that led to the sequence of events that set off the usurpation of Bolingbroke.


14 posted on 11/29/2021 10:39:32 AM PST by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: Campion

Yes... it is most likely Edward II was the father... the contention is made for obvious reasons. It’s not even known surely that Edward II was homosexual.. he was very attached to Galveston however.


15 posted on 11/29/2021 10:41:31 AM PST by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: shadowlands1960

>>> Gaveston


16 posted on 11/29/2021 10:42:55 AM PST by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: Campion

I saw the director of the movie interviewed about all those inaccuracies... the most glaring, the ridiculous idea that Edward III was the son of Wallace. He seemed to have no problem with any of it, it was the anti English angle that mattered and that was all.


17 posted on 11/29/2021 10:47:44 AM PST by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: shadowlands1960
If you ask a knowledgeable English person about Braveheart, be prepared for the avalanche of angry objections you'll get back. Ditto for another Mel Gibson movie, Patriot.
18 posted on 11/29/2021 10:53:29 AM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Campion

I read somewhere that Gibson’s anti-English slant is probably due to the old church Catholicism he inherited from his father. He never misses an opportunity to slight the Brits...


19 posted on 11/29/2021 10:57:33 AM PST by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: shadowlands1960
I'm not sure how the Catholicism angle works into it. In the case of Braveheart, everyone in (the history depicted by) the movie, on both sides, were as Catholic as Gibson is.

(And in The Patriot, almost everyone on both sides is Protestant.)

Mel Gibson has a whole lot of Irish and Scottish heritage on both his mother's and father's sides. That may explain some of the anti-English animus.

20 posted on 11/29/2021 11:04:03 AM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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