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New medical journal article shows no difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated COVID cases
Liberty Loft ^ | 11/27/2021

Posted on 11/27/2021 11:20:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Charlotte, NC — In the continuing saga of the COVID vaccine, one new medical journal says that there is no difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated people that are positive with COVID. The peer-reviewed article, a standard among the medical community, says there “no significant differences were detected in duration of RT-PCR positivity among fully vaccinated participants (median: 13 days) versus those not fully vaccinated (median: 13 days; p=0.50), or in duration of culture positivity (medians: 5 days and 5 days; p=0.29).

There are a couple of key points to draw from this statement. Even if someone has been vaccinated, they are able to become infected with COVID. Even if someone has been vaccinated, there is no difference in how they can spread the virus to others.

The journal article was shared on Twitter by Dr. Jordan Peterson. He said that Americans should read the words of the study regarding COVID and transmissibility.

Dr Jordan B Peterson on Twitter: “Read it and draw your own conclusions re vaccination and Covid transmissibility pic.twitter.com/5DIBObrf7a / Twitter”

Read it and draw your own conclusions re vaccination and Covid transmissibility pic.twitter.com/5DIBObrf7a

Based on the information, it appears that breakthrough cases of COVID are more common than realized. It would also indicate that all the vaccine stories spread by the mainstream media and Biden administration were just propaganda to force Americans into compliance. That is exactly what conservative media has been reporting for months.

President Joe Biden and other members of his COVID team have given assurances that the only way to beat COVID-19 is with vaccinations. Earlier this year, Joe Biden declared that anyone who received a vaccine was fully protected and would not get COVID.

Biden and his regime also said that the COVID vaccine would not be mandatory. Since that statement, he has made the vaccine mandatory for all federal employees, the military, healthcare workers, and has pending guidance for mandating private employers to comply with vaccine mandates.

Just one week ago, Dr. Anthony Fauci said that the US could get COVID under control if there were more vaccines. But again, that does not appear truthful given the information in the study that was shared. Vaccines are not preventing infection and spread of the virus.

More and more journal articles continue to report the risks associated with the COVID vaccine. Not only has the vaccine effectiveness been proven a lie, but continued studies are showing the vaccine is more harmful long term.

Officials continue to ignore the VAERS data and the number of injuries associated with the vaccine. Not only have there been countless injuries and deaths, but many other health issues have also presented. One recent article noted how ectopic pregnancies in females have been on the rise due to the vaccine.

Now, US officials are pushing for a third vaccine in order to be considered fully vaccinated. Others are already discussing a fourth shot and the benefits it could provide. The move leaves many asking at what point does the madness stop?



TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: anthonyfauci; cases; covid; covidstooges; medialjournal; obamacare; vaccination; vaccinemandates

1 posted on 11/27/2021 11:20:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Can’t have everybody who gets the “vaccines” dying at once.

That would be bad “optics.”

Only 5% of the production lots contain the secret sauce at any given time.

That’s why the vaccines don’t actually prevent the illness and why “boosters” are required.

Every time you get a “booster” you have a one-in-twenty chance of hitting the “adverse reaction” jackpot.

https://theexpose.uk/2021/11/03/majority-deadliest-batches-of-covid-19-vaccine-were-sent-to-red-republican-states/


2 posted on 11/27/2021 11:21:58 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: SeekAndFind

BLASPHEME! Dr faunocchio’s brown shirts will hunt them down and cancel them!


3 posted on 11/27/2021 11:24:33 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anti science. Burn them at the stake!


4 posted on 11/27/2021 11:29:00 AM PST by Leep (Save America. Lock down pres. Brandon!)
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To: SeekAndFind
The sample size is very small. It's also not drawn from a representative sub segment of society.

That said, it's about as controlled a sub segment as you could I'll want nowadays, and if the p-value is 0.5, that's pretty compelling.

5 posted on 11/27/2021 11:31:24 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2 )
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To: DoodleBob

It also suggests a reason for why we’re not hearing anything about nosocomial cases of the coof.


6 posted on 11/27/2021 11:32:51 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: SeekAndFind
From the discussion section of the full text of the study.

Transmission potential of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant in a federal prison, July—August 2021

While our investigation did not find evidence of reduced transmission potential from vaccinated persons with infection, vaccination is known to reduce the risk of infection,6, 21 which prevents secondary transmission. In addition, vaccination remains a strongly protective factor against morbidity and mortality due to SARS-CoV-2.22 Protection against infection, morbidity, and mortality underscores the importance of maximizing vaccination coverage, particularly in settings where challenges to physical distancing can result in rapid, widespread transmission when infections do occur.

The evidence that vaccinated persons can transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others suggests that there is continued risk of widespread outbreaks when the virus is introduced into congregate settings, even when vaccination coverage is high. In particular, because of the potential for rapid transmission and high prevalence of underlying health conditions in incarcerated populations,7, 8 persons living or working in correctional facilities should quarantine after exposure to SARS-CoV-2, regardless of vaccination status. Post-exposure quarantine is especially important where the risk of transmission is high (e.g., in dorm-style housing, and where staff and/or incarcerated persons frequently interact across housing units) or where the population is at high risk of severe outcomes from COVID-19. Facilities can continue to minimize the need for quarantine by enforcing consistent indoor masking to the extent possible, continuing recommended disinfection, cleaning, and ventilation, and maintaining routine test-based screening programs that can identify cases early and facilitate timely action (including isolation) to limit exposure to others. Facilities that implement routine test-based screening should continue to include vaccinated persons in their frame.

7 posted on 11/27/2021 11:34:04 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: SeekAndFind

It is my understanding that the CDC has tried and been unable to demonstrate any cases of asymptomatic transmission from UNvaxed persons. IOW, if you are *unvaxed* and have no symptoms you are no threat to anyone.

I have read, but cannot verify where I read it thus it is speculation on my part, that those who have received The Jab (the not vax called a vax) can (if infected) asymptomatically shed the virus and infect others.


8 posted on 11/27/2021 12:44:04 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is great. I have an in-person all day work meeting holiday party thing scheduled for next month that I don’t want to go to because I can’t stand to be around my co-workers, who are a bunch of Trance Covidians.

I will share this with them beforehand so they will put pressure on the boss to move this meeting to Zoom. At least it will run shorter and I don’t have to get dressed.


9 posted on 11/27/2021 12:57:56 PM PST by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: SeekAndFind

The other day I was in the church hall doing volunteer work. I talked about the covid shots with maybe 10 people. About half mentioned side effects. One got hospitalized 3 days after the shot, with a serious respiratory infection (viral). They weren’t going to submit to a second shot.

I also heard from several who’d had covid. Verdict in all those cases was that it’s like any other flu, except you don’t taste or smell much afterwards.

Most have heard of ivermectin but nobody said they’d taken that.

Seems like every time I go out I meet at least one person who suspects they got sick from that shot.


10 posted on 11/27/2021 1:51:26 PM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

“Transmission potential of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant in a federal prison, July—August 2021”

Quite different from thread title.


11 posted on 11/27/2021 2:56:38 PM PST by Reaganez
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To: SeekAndFind

Funding Statement

This study was funded by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


12 posted on 11/27/2021 3:22:47 PM PST by consult
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To: Reaganez; SeekAndFind

“Quite different from thread title.”

That Texas prison study did show strong protection against serious disease or death from vaccination - but not very significant protection against infection/transmission.

It was among the early US studies to show a high rate of breakthrough infections among the vaccinated, from the Delta variant.


13 posted on 11/27/2021 3:34:30 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: DannyTN

The article is CYA for the failures of the ‘vaccines’ and a blueprint for the next lockdown(s).


14 posted on 11/27/2021 5:25:16 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: SeekAndFind

breakthroughs are a fabricated issue to create scary stories for people who only know woke math

With an effective breakthrough rate of 1% or less in each state, the odds of any one unvaccinated person encountering a breakthrough case is 1 / (1% of the number of state vaccinated population).
(Example, calif vac pop = 25M x 1% breakthrough rate avg, so your possible odds are 1/250,000 PLUS the odds that the breakthrough met is one of the 68% that are actively shedding, on the days they are actively shedding, but you get the drift. One in a million odds of encountering an infectious breakthrough is not an unfair guess.

In contrast, if the rate of death for unvaccinated ranges 9-18/100,000 but let’s say the same 1% as breakthroughs, then the rate of infection in the unvaccinated would be 100x as high or 900-1300/100,000. Making the odds of an unvaccinated encountering an unvaccinated infected at 9-13/10,000 or 1 in 1,000 roughly.

1). The rate of breakthrough cases reported among those fully vaccinated is below 1% in all reporting states, ranging from 0.01% in Connecticut to 0.54% in Arkansas.
The hospitalization rate among fully vaccinated people with COVID-19 ranged from effectively zero (0.00%) in California, Delaware, D.C., Indiana, New Jersey, New Mexico, Vermont, and Virginia to 0.06% in Arkansas. (Note: Hospitalization may or may not have been due to COVID-19.)
The rates of death among fully vaccinated people with COVID-19 were even lower, effectively zero (0.00%) in all but two reporting states,
https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-data-from-the-states/

According to a study done by the Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam with HCWs as study subjects:

” The mean age of the HCWs with a breakthrough infection was 25.5 years and 91% were less than 50 years old (Table 1)”

- 68% of breakthrough cases shed virus
- 85% of unvaccinated infected shed virus.
- reduced immune responses may likely account for breakthrough infections
- Due to the high vaccine coverage in HCW, we diagnosed very few infections in unvaccinated HCWs. For this reason, we used infections prior to the onset of vaccination as a reference.
- Ct-values were significantly lower in symptomatic breakthrough infections (μ = 23.2) than in asymptomatic breakthrough infections (μ = 26.7), corresponding to higher viral loads (p = 0.022, t-test). In symptomatic vaccinated HCWs, the Ct-values decreased significantly throughout the first days from symptom onset and were lowest on the third day of illness (Figure 1A).
- Figure 1C shows the probability of a positive culture for a given viral load in vaccinated and unvaccinated HCWs. A positive vaccination status significantly decreased the probability of culture positivity

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.20.21262158v1.full


15 posted on 11/27/2021 6:34:18 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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