Posted on 11/17/2021 4:46:46 PM PST by Captainpaintball
You need to take a step back and look at the big picture.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
One major reason the world population has exploded is because modern medicine (and yes, their vaccines) have been very effective in curing some diseases, creating immunity from other diseases, and mitigating the effects of other diseases. This has led to impressive gains in life expectancy for almost everyone.
The elites have made it _very_ clear they view this as a major problem that must be dealt with asap.
How are they going to “flatten the curve” and “save the planet”?
Just think about it.
Imagine you had the power to implement your policies to flatten the population curve.
You would quickly figure out that telling the truth would not be a part of the plan.
Think about it very very carefully.
The elites that own the politicians and control all large institutions (including mass media and non-profits) around the world have the means, the motive and the opportunity to flatten that curve.
All they have to do is create some “vaccines” with a few little “tricks”, and then lie about it.
P.S. Don’t tell the doctors and nurses they created the overpopulation problem and now they are going to have to “fix” it. They might not be willing to “play ball”.
I've seen some that looks like "misinformation", but i've seen far more that looks legit. I haven't seen what you've seen, and it doesn't appear as though you've seen what i've seen, so i'm not convinced that what you are labeling as "misinformation" is in fact "misinformation."
Pfizer is the only one authorized for kids 5-12. So all the others can be ignored for this discussion.
"Authorized"? Who's playing god to "authorize" this stuff and not the other stuff? Is this a government bureaucrat doing the "authorizing"? I don't trust them to tell the truth, or even to be competent for that matter.
I’m not kidding. Show me evidence of a healthy kid dying from the vaccine. Or even an unhealthy one.
Why are you stuck on "kid"? Why would you assume that something which appears to be killing and injuring adults is not capable of doing the same thing to a kid?
You’re supporting breaking up a marriage over a drug that is proven very effective in protecting kids from COVID.
"Proven"? Who "proved" it and how did they do that? This stuff is experimental gene therapy, and it has no real history of usage, so anyone "proving" that it is long-term harmless to people is lying. There has not been sufficient time to analyze whether or not it is actually safe for children or adults for that matter.
Of course, the best scientists in the world have no such concerns.
What you are advancing here as an argument is "argumentum ad vericundiam." Otherwise known as the "expert fallacy." Fauci's an "expert", and pretty much everything he has said has turned out to be wrong. We've got "global warming" experts who have a long continuous stream of being wrong.
We get "experts" all the time who do not know what the f*** they are talking about. These same sort of "experts" gave us thalidomide and bans on DDT.
Old, fat, or at risk people who don’t are stupidly risking death in my opinion, but everyone gets to decide.
The evidence i'm seeing says they are risking an even greater likilihood of death by getting the vaccine. I've had Covid. Twice. Last September the 4th I went to visit a buddy and his wife I hadn't seen in years. His wife lectured me about getting the Covid vaccine, and I told her I already had the bug and therefore had natural immunity, which is better than a vaccine in all the literature i've ever read on the topic of immunization. She told me she had just gotten her vaccine, and I needed to get mine too.
Two weeks later I was shocked to get a phone call from my old friend telling me his wife died suddenly. I've been seeing a lot of these sorts of stories lately.
But Trump and Pence ran the vaccination program, not Biden.
Trump has made some mistakes, but I don't blame him for this. All those "best scientists" told him this thing would work, and what does he know about vaccines and immunity?
I have seen other people suggest this as a potential goal for this "vaccine", but I am not persuaded that this is an effort to control population. I will keep the idea in the back of my mind, but for the time being i'm going with government incompetence and the desire of the manufacturers to make huge profits for a government mandated product.
I understand—it is always more comforting to think bad stuff happens due to greed combined with incompetence.
It keeps our world calm and normal....
This teaching guide for youngsters may shake you out of your trance:
https://www.thegreatcoursesdaily.com/can-euthanasia-solve-the-problem-of-overpopulation/
One quote:
” it makes one wonder whether euthanasia could be morally and effectively used as a solution to overpopulation.”
They use an example of a vaccine to kill people (from a Star Trek episode):
“the Gideonites tried to harvest a virus from Capt. Kirk which was deadly enough to kill a Gideonite. Their hope was that Gideonites would volunteer to infect themselves with it, to thin the population.”
There is a _lot_ more where this comes from...all you have to do is pay attention—and not turn away when you hear something that scares you.
Why do I ask for proof? Well, that’s how science and statistics work. You have produced no evidence to support your suspicions that the Pfizer vaccine is dangerous to kids. Perhaps its progress that you’ve gone from “its dangerous” to “who knows, it might be dangerous in the future!” I’ve made an inroad.
Obviously I’m discussing kids because the original post is about an uncle with an irrational phobia that concerning his nephews. Lets limit the discussion to that, instead of throwing in global warming.
I’m not relying on experts like Fauci. I’m relying on statistics. You have found zero deaths attributable to the vaccine in children. Same as me. Of course, when it comes to medicine, only a fool ignores all of the experts and goes with the tinfoil hat wearing quacks on the internet.
I’m sorry for the loss of your friend. Sounds like a huge lawsuit is in order. Did the medical examiner determine it was from the vaccine?
I didn't ask you that. I said there is plenty of proof for adults, and therefore why did you think the same concerns should not apply to children?
Perhaps its progress that you’ve gone from “its dangerous” to “who knows, it might be dangerous in the future!”
You extrapolate a lot from a little. It is known to have dangers for adults. It is therefore likely to have dangers for children.
Obviously I’m discussing kids because the original post is about an uncle with an irrational phobia that concerning his nephews.
Kids are just young humans, and it is unreasonable to assume young humans will not respond similarly to an experimental gene therapy that has been demonstrated to have serious side effects in adults.
Lets limit the discussion to that, instead of throwing in global warming.
You tossed in "experts", and this therefore opened the door to the long history of failure from "experts."
I’m relying on statistics. You have found zero deaths attributable to the vaccine in children.
There you go focusing on young humans instead of acknowledging that something which damages mature humans is also likely to hurt young humans.
And I haven't "found" anything regarding adverse reactions for children because I haven't even bothered to look for such information. I consider the incidents of harm to adults sufficient to regard this experimental gene therapy as potentially harmful to children.
You are leaping to a conclusion to which I am not yet willing to jump.
Of course, when it comes to medicine, only a fool ignores all of the experts and goes with the tinfoil hat wearing quacks on the internet.
One of my favorite topics of interest is the history of medicine. I take it you have little knowledge of this topic? I urge you to take it up because it is hilarious reading. "Medicine" seemingly always goes down the wrong path, and it has done so as far back as history records.
Blood letting, leaches, "bad air", "influenza ad astra" just to start, and then Phrenology, denial of the germ theory of disease, Lister, pursuit of chemotherapy instead of immune activation, and even recently denying ulcers were caused by bacteria and denial of XY chromosome determination of sex.
Medical "experts" may be the very tinfoil quacks you are warning us about.
I’m sorry for the loss of your friend. Sounds like a huge lawsuit is in order. Did the medical examiner determine it was from the vaccine?
He has not responded to my efforts to contact him since then. His son just committed suicide last May, and it almost broke him. Myself and another friend came to visit him on his birthday because his wife had asked us to do so, and she told us he was in a black spirit and had been crying daily since it happened. She said our visit was the first time she had heard him laugh since the suicide.
I cannot imagine his pain at now losing her too, but he has indicated that it is too painful to talk about and he is 1,200 miles away. His sister lives not too far from him, and I hope he has gone to stay with her.
I think about him almost every day, but there is nothing I can do to take away his pain.
That wasn’t my point.
My point was that we don’t have to show off our wit by calling other Freepers snarky names just because of their personal choices. There are a lot of intelligent people here who did choose to take the vaccine - regardless what some call it.
"One of the very best summaries was published in a beautiful opus by Seneff and Nigh in the journal “International Journal of Vaccine Theory, Research and Practice” about a year after my initial predictions. That article, entitled “Worse Than the Disease? Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19”, is as comprehensive a piece as you will find warning against the dangers of widespread exposure to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. I recently had occasion to re-read the article while preparing written testimony for one of the lawsuits in which I serve as expert witness, and it is absolutely, an “If you read one thing.”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4013828/posts?page=3#3
And I hope no ill comes to them from it, but I wonder how many were threatened with their jobs to induce them to do it?
Many of them took it before it appeared that there would be mandates that could jeopardize their jobs, and despite those. They took it because they thought it was best for them, often in consultation with trusted doctors. That’s nobody’s business but theirs, and they don’t deserve to be called names for it.
A never before utilized gene therapy that reprograms your own cells to manufacture virus spike proteins? What could possibly go wrong?
That’s nobody’s business but theirs, and they don’t deserve to be called names for it.
I don't think I called anyone names for it, but from what I already knew and from what I have learned since, it seems rather unnecessarily risky to me.
OK, if you're going to tell bald-faced lies you are not worth talking to.
My original response on this thread was to someone with the handle ‘Captainpaintball’, who used the charming term “maskhole/vaxsucker”.
But thanks for your input.
+1.
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