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To: bhl
I’ve seen a ton of misinformation on FR about vaccines. Its sad.

I've seen some that looks like "misinformation", but i've seen far more that looks legit. I haven't seen what you've seen, and it doesn't appear as though you've seen what i've seen, so i'm not convinced that what you are labeling as "misinformation" is in fact "misinformation."

Pfizer is the only one authorized for kids 5-12. So all the others can be ignored for this discussion.

"Authorized"? Who's playing god to "authorize" this stuff and not the other stuff? Is this a government bureaucrat doing the "authorizing"? I don't trust them to tell the truth, or even to be competent for that matter.

I’m not kidding. Show me evidence of a healthy kid dying from the vaccine. Or even an unhealthy one.

Why are you stuck on "kid"? Why would you assume that something which appears to be killing and injuring adults is not capable of doing the same thing to a kid?

You’re supporting breaking up a marriage over a drug that is proven very effective in protecting kids from COVID.

"Proven"? Who "proved" it and how did they do that? This stuff is experimental gene therapy, and it has no real history of usage, so anyone "proving" that it is long-term harmless to people is lying. There has not been sufficient time to analyze whether or not it is actually safe for children or adults for that matter.

Of course, the best scientists in the world have no such concerns.

What you are advancing here as an argument is "argumentum ad vericundiam." Otherwise known as the "expert fallacy." Fauci's an "expert", and pretty much everything he has said has turned out to be wrong. We've got "global warming" experts who have a long continuous stream of being wrong.

We get "experts" all the time who do not know what the f*** they are talking about. These same sort of "experts" gave us thalidomide and bans on DDT.

Old, fat, or at risk people who don’t are stupidly risking death in my opinion, but everyone gets to decide.

The evidence i'm seeing says they are risking an even greater likilihood of death by getting the vaccine. I've had Covid. Twice. Last September the 4th I went to visit a buddy and his wife I hadn't seen in years. His wife lectured me about getting the Covid vaccine, and I told her I already had the bug and therefore had natural immunity, which is better than a vaccine in all the literature i've ever read on the topic of immunization. She told me she had just gotten her vaccine, and I needed to get mine too.

Two weeks later I was shocked to get a phone call from my old friend telling me his wife died suddenly. I've been seeing a lot of these sorts of stories lately.

But Trump and Pence ran the vaccination program, not Biden.

Trump has made some mistakes, but I don't blame him for this. All those "best scientists" told him this thing would work, and what does he know about vaccines and immunity?

102 posted on 11/18/2021 10:40:50 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Why do I ask for proof? Well, that’s how science and statistics work. You have produced no evidence to support your suspicions that the Pfizer vaccine is dangerous to kids. Perhaps its progress that you’ve gone from “its dangerous” to “who knows, it might be dangerous in the future!” I’ve made an inroad.

Obviously I’m discussing kids because the original post is about an uncle with an irrational phobia that concerning his nephews. Lets limit the discussion to that, instead of throwing in global warming.

I’m not relying on experts like Fauci. I’m relying on statistics. You have found zero deaths attributable to the vaccine in children. Same as me. Of course, when it comes to medicine, only a fool ignores all of the experts and goes with the tinfoil hat wearing quacks on the internet.

I’m sorry for the loss of your friend. Sounds like a huge lawsuit is in order. Did the medical examiner determine it was from the vaccine?


107 posted on 11/18/2021 12:15:57 PM PST by bhl
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