Posted on 11/02/2021 4:06:47 PM PDT by alligator
Help needed with Religious Exemption prep!
My company came out with a vax mandate and I have filed for a religious exemption. My initial request had the following statements... I received a message today that they want to have an interactive discussion about my request... The focus of the discussion is to learn more about your religious beliefs and restrictions, and discuss potential accommodations.
I am a little nervous as to what they might ask, how I might respond, etc. I don't want to lose my chance at an exemption by fumbling my responses. Any guidance and resources would be appreciated. Below is what I said in my initial request for the religious exemption.
"The Christian Church has condemned abortion, which is the killing of human infants while in the womb. I believe that life begins at conception and abortion is murder and a sin. There are many bible stories which provide God’s view, and therefore my view, of human life including that of the unborn. The Scriptures reveal that God knows us even before we are conceived. Any use or benefit of a murdered/aborted life is something I cannot have anything to do with. The use of aborted fetuses in either the development or production of these vaccines, or both, when my religious beliefs require that I respect all human life, including fetal life… I cannot, in good conscience and in accord with my sincere religious faith, take any such Covid vaccine.
All the Covid vaccines currently available were developed and/or confirmed using fetal cell lines, which originated from aborted fetuses. Taking a vaccine offends me and my deeply held religious beliefs and it makes me complicit in the sin.
I have not, and would never, knowingly take any vaccine that was developed or produced with fetal cells or other parts that have been harvested from aborted children. Nor would I knowingly take any medicine developed in the same manner. My body is a temple for my soul, given to me by God. I am reminded of the bible verse from Corrinthians “Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.” The violation of informed consent is a matter of religious conscience. Participating in such invasive, coerced medicine at any time offends the very core of my conscience and faith."
State your a Christian and it’s against you beliefs.
Your beliefs are personal and not up for discussion.
End of story.... You divulge too much and you give them an opening.
Here is part of what I included minus some personal stuff:
I have been a Christian for XX years. I seek GodâÂÂs direction for my life through daily prayer and Bible study. I rely on the power of the Holy Spirit to help me hear and follow GodâÂÂs commands for me. It is against my faith and my conscience to do anything that violates the will of God as set forth in the Bible, and as impressed upon my heart by the Holy Spirit. In order to keep myself from sin and to receive GodâÂÂs direction in life, I pray and ask God for wisdom and guidance daily. As part of my prayers, I have asked God for direction regarding the current COVID shot requirement. When the vaccines first became available, I prayed about whether to take them, as I pray about all significant decisions that I have to make. Through prayer, the Holy Spirit has moved on my heart and conscience that I must not accept the COVID shot. While I believe this, alone, is adequate reason for my objection, I will also include some of the reasons the Holy Spirit brought to mind:
The Sanctity of Human Life: I am aware that the manufacturers of the COVID-19 shots have used fetal cell lines based on aborted fetal cells, either in research and development, or in production and manufacturing. I believe that life begins at conception and is sacred to God (see Jeremiah 1:5; Psalm 139:13-16). I believe it is wrong to âÂÂdo evil that good may comeâ (Romans 3:8). Thus, my faith prohibits me from participating in or benefiting from an abortion, no matter when that abortion occurred.
The Stewardship of the Body: 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 says that my body is a temple of the Holy Spirit and, as such, I should honor God with my body. This includes eating right, exercising, and abstaining from illegal drugs and any other substances harmful to me. I believe one clear implication of this doctrine is that oneâÂÂs health is a matter of stewardship, and God places that responsibility on the individual, not on a third party such as the state or oneâÂÂs employer. I have studied all provided guidance and, through exhaustive prayer, believe the Covid-19 shots are potentially detrimental to my body. God has provided me with a robust immune system that was already successful in defending my body against COVID. I am deeply opposed to any mandate that would result in the non-consensual or coerced altering or treatment of my body as a condition of employmentâÂÂespecially in the absence of any long term, peer reviewed studies on the issue of potential side effects of the COVID-19 shot.
The Doctrine of Liberty of Conscience: My faith tradition, as well as my personal convictions, stress that people are ultimately responsible to God, not to human authorities, and that we are each individually responsible to God for our personal beliefs and actions. As the apostle Paul wrote, âÂÂWhy should my liberty be determined by someone elseâÂÂs conscience?â (1 Corinthians 10:29). My decisions regarding my faith are personal; Romans 14:14a says, âÂÂBut if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean,â and Romans 14:22c, âÂÂBlessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves.â Also, âÂÂEverything that is not done in faith is sinâ (Romans 14:23). Frankly, even being asked to submit this information is, to a degree, pressing my religious convictions â âÂÂSo, whatever you believe about these things, keep between yourself and Godâ (Romans 14:22a). Being forced to take a vaccine to be able to work is coercion. As a Christian, I am against oppression and tyranny in all forms. A mandate to receive an immunization violates the doctrine of liberty of conscience and my own convictions of the truth that I find in Holy Scripture.
Be direct and honest and personal, in two steps:
1) Tell them you will be damned to HELL (all caps) for all eternity if you take the vaccine. List your rationale based on the 5th Commandment and that no covid vaccines would exist without the use of the cells from a live dissected baby, and you cannot gain a benefit from those murders without going to HELL.
2) And therefore Title VII of Civil Rights Act as well as several court decisions and EEOC interpretations backup. List them all, so they fear your lawyer’s wrath.
Based on followups I’ve read elsewhere and here, this item may get a response in which you’re forced to deny you use a myriad of other medicines and even household products which had some connection to embryonic stem cells in development, production, or testing — even something like an antacid — with the intent of equating even things developed before abortion was legal with this jab.
Per EEOC a sincerely held belief must be honored, so I advise going general rather than specific. I *don’t* have enough info to say what has worked generally or against certain employer mandates.
>>> You going to pay the OP’s bills when he rolls out your claim?
There is no “claim” involved.
If you don’t understand basic human rights, then you certainly won’t understand religious freedoms.
They certainly don’t understand either... so who takes responsibility for losing them is moot.
Once you concede the validity of law, the law is rendered useless.
You appeal to the HIGHEST LAW FIRST and Foremost!
There is no exemption to an illegal act.
Apparently the Fed.Gov has created a brand new DD-3177 and DD-3176 forms for exemptions.
Check out the fed.gov religious exemption form starting on page 18. What other meds do you have a religious issue with. Crazy train.
Peggy Hall BTTT!
go to Sydney powells website. she has excellent info.
dont just copy/paste. typos / links.
heard that some employers are now checking against google for plagarization.
hubby got his, but his employer didn’t do the verbal intimmidattion part.
Good luck and God Bless YOU!
Ann Barnhardt has a post up with excellent resources for religious exemption. She even has a template of her letter for anyone to use.
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/10/30/over-the-transom-clotshot-exemption-letter-template/
You shouldn’t have to explain anything to them. A simple “My faith does not allow me to partake of vaccines”
End of story. If they question you, have them contact your attorney.
And the people who are asking “are they allowed to ask.” You are a conservative Christian. It is 100% acceptable and encouraged to perpetrate discrimination against us. We are in a full state of persecution.
That list is a crock.
I don’t want to give away ALL the reasons (I want to reserve my ammo so they don’t have a counter);
but the fore-runner of aspirin, willow bark, was used in Ancient Egypt and by Native Americans back to the 1500s.
Aspirin has been around since 1899.
Tums have been around since 1928.
Tylenol was first available in prescription form in 1955
Ex-Lax was invented in 1906.
...how can tests that came about decades or 100 years later, suddenly retroactively make those medicines EEEEVIL?
...and since they’re lying about those, they are creating a hostile work environment.
Have a lawyer send them a request (for a religious discrimination lawsuit) asking how many Muslims or Jews who objected on religious grounds were grilled over it? Ask the % of religious exemptions granted vs. denied overall, and by denomnation or faith.
You should know those cells were taken from a baby that was alive. They couldn’t use those cells if they were already dead. It’s not aborted fetuses. It’s human sacrifice. Babies torn from their mother’s wombs, babies cut open with out anesthesia, kidney cells extracted. And it wasn’t done to just one or two babies. It took many babies, dissected alive, to get viable cell lines.
It’s not just abortion. It’s human sacrifice.
That was it for me.
Monsters
>That list is a crock.
Absolutely. All the follow-up question variations I’ve read about are BS traps intended to get the employee in a false conundrum, get them to write something not really part of a real exemption that can be used for a denial, or simply get the employee to contradict themselves or some part of company policy. They are, themselves, a hostile work environment and harassment.
Every piece of this is a full reversal and mockery of every HR policy, whether it’s hostile work environment, retaliation, and it’s all harassment — “put this in you, or be fired” is the prelude to an instant dismissal unless it’s 2021 and ‘this’ is an experimental drug that’s existed for less than a year.
Thanks. I am leaning towards less, is more. Your response fits...
They tried to sneak in language that I was “self resigning” if I did not get the vax. I added language that I was not going to resign, and would work until terminated. That opens up options for EEOC and legal options... which there are numerous patriotic attorneys willing to work on...
A religious exemption is going to be a more personal issue. I've already heard rumor that the military is going to issue blanket denials of religious objections and use layers of "approvals" to create insurmountable administrative hurdles. It might be easier dealing with a small HR department in a private company.
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There is an article which was on FR recently, pointing out that in particular, the HEK293 cell line (descendants of fetal kidney cells) WERE most likely removed from a human baby still alive, and without anesthetics, as the baby must be alive to preserve the quality of the kidney cells, and anesthetics also may impact the kidneys.
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