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1 posted on 10/21/2021 10:22:37 AM PDT by Red Badger
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“It is now recognized that their effectiveness quickly diminishes over time.”

“Moderna’s vaccine was 93 percent effective at reducing the short-term risk of COVID-19 hospitalization and remained 92 percent effective after 120 days.”

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/09/18/cdc-moderna-vaccine-tops-pfizer-long-term-against-hospitalization/


2 posted on 10/21/2021 10:27:13 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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Denoting these infections “breakthrough” at this point is nonsense. It appears completely evident that these vaccines do nothing to prevent the vaccinated from getting COVID, or dying of it as well. There’s nothing to “break through”.

And this idiotic argument going around that “You won’t get as sick if you’re vaccinated” is fallacy. Most people who get COVID don’t get that sick. Some even have to be told they have it.


3 posted on 10/21/2021 10:28:45 AM PDT by Magnatron
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“This corresponds to the five months since the onset of the mass vaccination program; a period when vaccines lose their effectiveness.”

they’re not really vaccines if they only last 5 months.

Nor do I think this has been established that the “breakthrough” cases are due to loss of effectiveness.

“As time goes on, more people lose protection from vaccines causing more breakthrough infections.”

Same comment. This is an assumption. I don’t think it’s been established this is the basis for “breakthrough” (I hate that term) cases.


5 posted on 10/21/2021 10:31:21 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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The data is clear.

We will not and can not vaccinate our way out of Covid.

The vaccine not only fails to prevent infection and negative outcomes, it does not prevent the vaccinated from spreading it.

The vaccine is responsible for the new strains that are vaccine resistant. There will more variants.

Pfizer, Moderna, and others are getting rich off of a failed plan. Our NIH, FDA, CDC, the WHO, and other health institutions are hopelessly corrupted.

Our President and political leaders do not have a clue. Our media is hopelessly corrupted and millions take their health advice from Don Lemon, Joy Reid, and the editorial board of the NYT.

Therapeutics and prophylaxis with safe drugs that are cheap and plentiful is the only answer. Early treatment of a person upon onset of symptoms is the key to ending this, but it is time we all admit the truth.

FACT - HCQ/IVM are more efficacious than the vaccines. At this point, nutritional supplements like vitamin D and Zinc might be better than the vaccine. Look at the numbers yourself.... just the raw numbers. Draw your own conclusions.

Very powerful forces do not want the pandemic to end. I wish I could think of an alternative explanation, but I can’t.

This is deliberate.


6 posted on 10/21/2021 10:31:57 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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This information is heartbreaking. Most people who die from the heart attacks/strokes/blood clots etc. associated with the the Covid "vaccination" do so within 14 days. Actually the peak is 2 days post 'vaccine', whether it's the first or second dose. This means the majority of the dead are not counted!


8 posted on 10/21/2021 10:32:19 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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"As of October 12, CDC reported 7,178 breakthrough deaths, with 85% over 65."

So 1,076 breakthrough deaths were of people under 65. When you add-in the deaths occurring in the 14 days after vaccination, that figure would probably rise considerably. I wonder how many of those deaths were of people under 50?
9 posted on 10/21/2021 10:36:48 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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How many unvaccinated people who have recovered from COVID have caught the dreaded virus a second time. Last number I remember was around 200 worldwide. Seems like natural immunity is the BOMB!


14 posted on 10/21/2021 10:39:33 AM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To my mind:
1) Breakthrough should be the infection of the otherwise “vaccinated”. This would include infection and spread of variants not handled by the “vaccine”. If Delta is now the dominant strain out there, and these “vaccines” do not retard its contagion, then I expect most vaccinated infections are breakthroughs. At some point, this becomes a meaningless appellation, as the vaccine is, obviously, worthless.

2) Attempting to “vaccinate” the immune-compromised is not even medicine. Colin Powell probably could not be inoculated against anything. The same goes for organ transplants on immunosuppressants and AIDS victims at a gay orgy. It tells more that this is being attempted than do the resulting illnesses and deaths.

Medicine in America is now completely run by the government and has ceased to be medicine.


22 posted on 10/21/2021 10:48:52 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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Powell had Multiple Myeloma and was 84 years old. I'm surprised the MSM is giving Covid as much credit for his death as they are.

ML/NJ

24 posted on 10/21/2021 10:50:31 AM PDT by ml/nj ("If the Representatives of the People betray their Constituents ..." Federalist #28; READ IT!)
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Declining vaccine effectiveness

First of all, they aren't actually vaccines, but experimental gene therapies. Secondly, once it becomes apparent that Covid has been one big psy op, then one must question if the variants were actually created and then spread though the "vaccines" themselves. It's the simplest explanation because Big Pharma is making too much money from Covid to just let it fade away.
32 posted on 10/21/2021 11:11:24 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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I highlighted a few of the key statistics and findings. This article needs to be widespread.

The DOD study got access to the medical data for those people who were fully vaccinated. Of that group, 2.7 million got the Pfizer shot and 2.9 million got the Moderna one. Here are key findings:

There were 161,000 breakthrough cases.There were 33,000 hospitalizations.There were 10,400 intensive care unit admissions.There were 3,381 deaths for a death rate of 2.1%

As of October 12, CDC reported 7,178 breakthrough deaths, with 85% over 65. It no longer counts all breakthrough cases, just deaths and hospitalizations.

The worsening of health outcomes after vaccination has been interpreted as resulting from damage to the immune system caused by vaccines. This is referred to as Antibody Dependent Enhancement in the medical research literature. It refers to immune system weakening from vaccines.

the vaccinated account for 85-90% of all new hospitalizations and 95% of “severe” cases at the Herzog Medical Center in Jerusalem.

There have also been reports that very high fractions of hospital admission in the US are for fully vaccinated people. One whistle blower reported that where she worked that while the vaccination rate was less than 50% in the community, about 90% of hospital admissions had been fully vaccinated.

This is why many medical experts refer to the vaccinated as super spreaders.


34 posted on 10/21/2021 11:12:16 AM PDT by patriot torch
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It’s looking as if you are old and/or compromised, the vaccine is locked out. Seems whatever you do have shields you from any positive effects of the vaccine.


42 posted on 10/21/2021 11:23:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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When they report counts of breakthrough “cases” and breakthrough hospitalizations and deaths, I sure wish they would break those counts down between the three vaccines. Now THAT would be helpful. But they don’t even though they easily could.

Something is being protected, IMHO.


43 posted on 10/21/2021 11:25:51 AM PDT by House Atreides
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He’s crazy. Quite mad.

Off his top. Lost his buttons.


46 posted on 10/21/2021 11:32:20 AM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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Here is the study linked page

https://www.scribd.com/document/531564267/US-DoD-Project-Salus-Humetrix-VE-Study-2021-09-28a


48 posted on 10/21/2021 11:39:32 AM PDT by patriot torch
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Practically anytime something is described as “breaktrough”, it is something positive. I think somebody in the Orwell Department decided to use the term to describe bad vaccine results so the low information voters thinks it is something good, not something bad. Surely if Trump were still president, the media would be using other terms such as “failure” and counting every death as a “Trump failure”.

“Vaccine breakthrough” ranks right up there with “mostly peaceful protest” in standing the language on its head.


50 posted on 10/21/2021 11:50:48 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Chinese communism will look different once the masks come off.)
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My niece is in healthcare in the NYC vicinity, and was the first person in the family to be vaccinated - with the Pfizer vaccine -back in January. Recently, before she got the Pfizer booster, she decided to have her antibody level checked. Zero. She had ZERO antibodies. I suspect that this is the situation with many of the “first in line” people who also got the Pfizer, because it was the first vaccine available. So for all practical purposes, I think Colin Powell was unvaccinated, and between his age and other health issues, he died just as so many of the elderly died in the first Covid wave. So these “breakthrough cases” aren’t really breakthrough at all, because they had no protecting from a vaccine.


52 posted on 10/21/2021 12:05:54 PM PDT by LizzieD
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The great mRNA experiment is over. It cannot keep you from infection, it cannot keep you from transmitting, it cannot keep you out of the hospital, it cannot keep you from dying, and does not last very long.


57 posted on 10/21/2021 12:35:37 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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BTTT


59 posted on 10/21/2021 12:41:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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