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Military courts could order ‘red flag’ gun confiscation under defense bill
americanmilitarynews.com ^ | Sept. 23, 2021 | LIZ GEORGE

Posted on 09/23/2021 5:04:16 PM PDT by PROCON

A provision in the 2022 National Defense Authorization Act would allow military courts to issue protective orders that include “Red Flag” gun confiscation, according to the more than 1,300-page bill.

In the legislation, those beholden to the United States Code of Military Justice could be issued a “military court protective order” by a military judge or magistrate, which would make “possessing, receiving, or otherwise accessing a firearm” illegal.

“A military court protective order issued on an ex parte basis shall restrain a person from possessing, receiving, or otherwise accessing a firearm; and a military court protective order issued after the person to be subject to the order has received notice and opportunity to be heard on the order, shall restrain such person from possessing, receiving, or otherwise accessing a firearm in accordance with section 922 of title 18,” SEC. 529 of H.R. 4350 states.

Additionally, military court protective orders issued on an emergency basis are exempted from providing the recipient with the standard “right to due process.” Instead, “notice and opportunity to be heard” must only be provided after an order was already issued.

“EMERGENCY ORDERS.—A protective order on an emergency basis may be issued on an ex parte basis under such rules and limitations as the President shall prescribe,” the section continues. “In the case of ex parte orders, notice and opportunity to be heard and to present evidence must be provided within a reasonable time not to exceed 30 calendar days after the date on which the order is issued, sufficient to protect the respondent’s due process rights.”

Gun Owners of America (GOA), a pro-Second Amendment gun rights advocacy group, warned the military gun confiscation orders could provide lawmakers with a precedent to extend the rule to the general population.

“Like the proverbial camel’s nose in the tent, allowing this provision to remain in a bill pertaining to the military will eventually work its way into legislation applying to the rest of the population,” GOA wrote. “That’s why we need to raise our voices in unison against these gun confiscation orders.”

“Again, this is just the foot in the door. If Nancy Pelosi gets this into the military code, then it becomes the ‘precedent’ for enforcing gun confiscation against the rest of the population,” the group continued. “Seizing firearms first and ‘getting the Due Process later’ will never constitute sufficient Due Process, no matter how much anti-gunners may pretend it does.”

Earlier this year, President Joe Biden urged Congress to pass a federal “red flag” gun confiscation law.

“The President urges Congress to pass an appropriate national ‘red flag’ law, as well as legislation incentivizing states to pass ‘red flag’ laws of their own. In the interim, the Justice Department’s published model legislation will make it easier for states that want to adopt red flag laws to do,” a White House said in a statement.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; biden; gunconfiscation; military; nancypelosi; redflaglaws; rkba; ucmj
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To: KC_Lion
"...‘red flag’ gun confiscation under defense bill..."

And why not?
Is there any slightest indication that the American people would either stop, attempt to stop, or raise hell about this?

Our communist masters are living large and in total control...
This is just the barebones beginning...

When Americans realize how bad things are, they will band together, once again, at Concord Bridge and chant:
Bow down!... Obey!... Snitch!...

21 posted on 09/23/2021 5:43:07 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: SuperLuminal

The evil ones never sleep and gain more ground every day. Wake up, fight back, eliminate them.


22 posted on 09/23/2021 5:44:06 PM PDT by RBW in PA
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To: PROCON

By hook or by crook DemocRATS will take your freedom away.


23 posted on 09/23/2021 5:48:57 PM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: Secret Agent Man
Government could even create an imaginary accuser and go after you, you will never know.

That's right, the unconstitutional slippery slope that the 'rats embrace.

You'll never know until that 2AM hammering on your door.

24 posted on 09/23/2021 5:50:11 PM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Celerity

My reliance of last resort (even though it is also from the beginning) is the mighty Hand of Divine Providence of the Lord God, the same Hand that birthed a miracle in 1776 and will miraculously restore our country this last time for a final sweep of redemption across the world before it all comes crashing down.


25 posted on 09/23/2021 5:52:22 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Celerity

My reliance of last resort (even though it is also from the beginning) is the mighty Hand of Divine Providence of the Lord God, the same Hand that birthed a miracle in 1776 and will miraculously restore our country this last time for a final sweep of redemption across the world before it all comes crashing down.


26 posted on 09/23/2021 5:52:25 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: PROCON

call the dude with the eye patch ... he likes red flag laws ...


27 posted on 09/23/2021 5:54:53 PM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink kills ...)
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To: ScottinVA

And those who join the military still have their constitutional rights. Where in the constitution does it say they do not?


28 posted on 09/23/2021 5:56:11 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Jim W N

No point. We shoulda fought them over the 2020 election heist, all we did is bitch and moan about it and say “shucks, we’ll win 2024 fer sure!”

No one is going to do any remotely close to the correct course of action to correct this disaster we let occur.

May as well just hand the guns over. No one on this board is ever gonna use em as intended. That theft, above all others, was the place to take action.


29 posted on 09/23/2021 5:56:43 PM PDT by SPDSHDW (You get what you let occur with no resistance. Everything Joepedo n' felons do is on your head.)
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To: Jim W N

I personally think God, who knew all of this before hand, had already started his divine providence.

The sun is showing signs of micro nova that will dramatically change everything on earth.

Satan and his minions can do all they want. God will always solve it in one swoop.

Look at the sun.


30 posted on 09/23/2021 5:57:58 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Jim W N

AMEN!!


31 posted on 09/23/2021 5:58:50 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Pollard
No mention as to why they might red flag someone. Refusing to take the vax means you’re nuts so now you can’t have a gun?

Yea, or if you use the "wrong" pronoun.

32 posted on 09/23/2021 6:03:02 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: PROCON

As to “ firearm reegistration” in the State of Louisiana, only the FBI form is recognized. All private sales need no paperwork.

The 2 gun shops in town closed years ago.

So, as I see it, as the media interprets things, no gun shops, no guns. Nothing to see here.


33 posted on 09/23/2021 6:08:54 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Revel

Article I section 8 of the Constitution of the United States comes to mind.


34 posted on 09/23/2021 6:13:07 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: PROCON

35 posted on 09/23/2021 6:13:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Resistance is not futile!)
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To: RBW in PA
"Wake up, fight back,..."

The sheeple see hundreds of Patriots from J-6 still rotting away and abused in solitary confinement...

The communists knew that this threat would put a damper on any kind of push-back from their serfs...

Since the incarceration and abuse of these innocent political prisoners hasn't already resulted in the citizenry storming the prisons and releasing them, there are no limits to what our communist masters can get away with...

IMHO, we can expect the gun confiscation to begin before the 2022 midterms...
Based on events of the last 8-months, it will probably go relatively smoothly..

36 posted on 09/23/2021 6:23:59 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: PROCON

Do they think they can do this and not get the public angry?
Do they think biden will serve the term? No way... he’s not been elected and when enough comes out that Trump won and biden is doing ridiculous things to the country... there will be a cry to remove him!

Trump was on America’s Voice today and he said Kemp, Georgia, is the one who gave the election to the dems! Trump has had it in for Kemp since the election... I though Trump had endorsed Vernon Jordan for Gov of GA but today he said someone needs to run against Kemp.. that Kemp was easy to beat.. since he messed up and would not give Trump any help nor a win.


37 posted on 09/23/2021 6:25:08 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: SuperLuminal
IMHO, we can expect the gun confiscation to begin before the 2022 midterms...

Well, aren't you a Debbie-Downer.

You think they'd be bold enough to try something that asinine knowing many gun owning democrats would vote against them in Nov. 2022?

38 posted on 09/23/2021 6:30:45 PM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: PROCON
"You think they'd be bold enough to try something that asinine..."

Well, based on the incremental way these stinking communists have tightened the screws on the American public over the past eight months without any serious blow-back, it certainly is within the realm of possibilities that they will go all in while they are still in complete control...

39 posted on 09/23/2021 6:50:59 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: SPDSHDW

Well, I’ll fight for my freedom with those who will spill blood before letting the tyrants have our freedom. Don’t think we’ll have to, but by God’s grace, I’ll fight and die if necessary, if it comes to that.


40 posted on 09/23/2021 7:00:50 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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