Posted on 09/13/2021 9:42:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Evangelical Lutherans are making a move.
It’s been said culture is defined by morality, and morality is informed by religion.
But sometimes, it works in the reverse.
Have hell-and-brimfire preachers gone the way of the dodo bird and thus society’s less legalistic, or is it the other way around?
Whether the chicken or the egg, on Saturday, history was hatched.
The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) installed its first transgender bishop.
Megan told attendees of her mission:
“My call is…to be up to the same messy, loving things I was up to before. But mostly, if you’ll let me, and I think you will, my hope is to love you and beyond that, to love what you love.”
Via a statement, the bishop celebrated diversity:
“I step into this role because a diverse community of Lutherans in Northern California and Nevada prayerfully and thoughtfully voted to do a historic thing. My installation will celebrate all that is possible when we trust God to shepherd us forward.”
As I previously covered, Megan was elected in May.
But Saturday made the occupation official, by way of a service at San Francisco’s Grace Cathedral.
Per the AP, the event saw progress meet Protestantism and pronouns:
Rohrer, who uses the pronoun “they,” previously served as pastor of Grace Lutheran Church in San Francisco and a chaplain coordinator for the city’s police department, and also helped minister to the city’s homeless and LGTBQ community. They studied religion at Augustana University in their hometown of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, before moving to California to pursue master and doctoral degrees at the Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley.
NEW – Evangelical Lutheran Church appoints an openly transgender person, Megan Rohrer, as bishop for the first time in U.S. history on Sunday. pic.twitter.com/fs8cBh0JdU
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) September 13, 2021
CNN reports strings were being pulled before Saturday’s establishment was even possible:
They were ordained in the church even before it accepted LGBTQ+ pastors and stuck with it after the church’s policies changed in 2009 (the following year, Rohrer was formally recognized as a Lutheran pastor). They said they connected with the church’s emphasis on serving the poor and advocating for community-based change, they told CNN.
Meghan sees it as a chance for healing:
“For some people who’ve never seen a family like mine — I’m married to a woman, and I have two Black children — for people to see my family, it’s really healing for some LGBTQ+ families,” they said.
Rohrer’s children are “very excited to be the kids of a bishop” and asked them if they can “only walk diagonally” as the bishop piece does in chess, they said.
Had the pleasure of interviewing Rev. Megan Rohrer – the first openly transgender bishop of a major Christian denomination. The Evangelical Lutheran Church installed Rohrer yesterday in SF. “Becoming a bishop is one more field that trans people can be fully equal.” #ktvu 10/11p pic.twitter.com/pSPTDEm7lK
— Azenith Smith (@AzenithKTVU) September 13, 2021
Culture is definitely in transition, and I don’t imagine it stopping any time soon.
Fewer than four decades ago, President Ronald Reagan declared 1983 the “Year of the Bible.”
At the time, the country was considerably conservative.
And “the Bible” represented a certain point of view.
These days, one is “conservative” to believe “man” and “woman” are static states.
For a while — it seems to me — Christian faith has been passed off as passé.
But in some sectors, it’s catching up with the times.
Count San Francisco and the Evangelical Lutheran Church among them.
Perhaps we’re going in a few different directions simultaneously:
Songwriter for Award-Winning, Chart-Topping Christian Group Renounces His Faith https://t.co/ki5RY13Ssl
— RedState (@RedState) August 14, 2019
Atheism is Now America’s Largest Religion. How Do We Return to a Nation Under God? Here’s a Start. https://t.co/8dJ1rWZnlO
— RedState (@RedState) April 8, 2019
Because Of Course: Harvard's New Head Chaplain Is an Atheist https://t.co/sy4N5O9EZS
— RedState (@RedState) August 28, 2021
For more, see “‘Faith Leaders’ Plan Gathering to Bless Ohio Abortion Clinic” and
the hashtag #Exvangelical.
Back to Megan, the reverend will serve a six-year term.
As I said in May, religion has been recognized as upstream from culture.
If that’s the case, the church is still changing the world.
But it’s changing it in a different way than before.
-ALEX
They is definitely the right pronoun. THEY are legion.
Interesting how this freak uses two black kids as leftist virtue-signaling props. How much did it pay for them?
Two words I never thought I’d see side by side:
Transgender Bishop.
Couldn’t she just be a Lesbian Bishop?
This person is very obviously a female.
I’m not going to say “Oh yes, you’re a Man now, because you wish it to be so.”
That’s not quite how it all works.
No, obviously!
If you doubt my word, just try openly claiming that this "transgender bishop" is still actually a male!
Then you'll see! You'll be excoriated and anathematized.
Regards,
He/She/It is scary looking.
And in so doing the ECLA has irrevocably cut itself off from the body of Christ.
When many follow man’s truth instead of God’s Truth, what do you expect?
Many will not find the narrow gate that leads to God.
Why do so many accept their temporary ways of the world and then lose eternal life with our Lord?
Deu 32:1 Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.
Deu 32:2 My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:
Deu 32:3 Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God.
Deu 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
Deu 32:5 They have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children: they are a perverse and crooked generation.
Deu 32:6 Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee?
Deu 32:7 Remember the days of old, consider the years of many generations: ask thy father, and he will shew thee; thy elders, and they will tell thee.
Deu 32:8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
Deu 32:9 For the LORD’S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.
Deu 32:10 He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye.
Deu 32:11 As an eagle stirreth up her nest, fluttereth over her young, spreadeth abroad her wings, taketh them, beareth them on her wings:
Deu 32:12 So the LORD alone did lead him, and there was no strange god with him.
Deu 32:13 He made him ride on the high places of the earth, that he might eat the increase of the fields; and he made him to suck honey out of the rock, and oil out of the flinty rock;
Deu 32:14 Butter of kine, and milk of sheep, with fat of lambs, and rams of the breed of Bashan, and goats, with the fat of kidneys of wheat; and thou didst drink the pure blood of the grape.
Deu 32:15 But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation.
Deu 32:16 They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger.
Deu 32:17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.
Deu 32:18 Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.
Deu 32:19 And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.
Deu 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.
Deu 32:21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.
Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
Deu 32:23 I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them.
Deu 32:24 They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust.
Deu 32:25 The sword without, and terror within, shall destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs.
Deu 32:26 I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:
Deu 32:27 Were it not that I feared the wrath of the enemy, lest their adversaries should behave themselves strangely, and lest they should say, Our hand is high, and the LORD hath not done all this.
Deu 32:28 For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them.
Deu 32:29 O that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end!
Deu 32:30 How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the LORD had shut them up?
Deu 32:31 For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.
Deu 32:32 For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah: their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:
Deu 32:33 Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.
Deu 32:34 Is not this laid up in store with me, and sealed up among my treasures?
Deu 32:35 To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
Deu 32:36 For the LORD shall judge his people, and repent himself for his servants, when he seeth that their power is gone, and there is none shut up, or left.
Deu 32:37 And he shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,
Deu 32:38 Which did eat the fat of their sacrifices, and drank the wine of their drink offerings? let them rise up and help you, and be your protection.
Deu 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
Deu 32:40 For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.
Deu 32:41 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.
Deu 32:42 I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy.
Deu 32:43 Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.
Deu 32:44 And Moses came and spake all the words of this song in the ears of the people, he, and Hoshea the son of Nun.
Deu 32:45 And Moses made an end of speaking all these words to all Israel:
Deu 32:46 And he said unto them, Set your hearts unto all the words which I testify among you this day, which ye shall command your children to observe to do, all the words of this law.
Deu 32:47 For it is not a vain thing for you; because it is your life: and through this thing ye shall prolong your days in the land, whither ye go over Jordan to possess it.
So incredibly modest.
Transgender bishop.
Like an Amish computer programmer.
CC
What is “I could see this coming since 1517” Alex...
Ummm actually I had a Amish computer programmer (Network Admin actually) co-worker at a job.....
Transgender is removed from Trans-dragon only by degree. In addition to hormone therapy, reconstruction, and prosthesis, the latter also suggests the need for an ignition source and fuel supply.
Hmmm.
How about...
Flat earth astronaut!
CC
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Alphabet Lutherans.
It's the other way around. Confusing, isn't it?
“For a while — it seems to me — Christian faith has been passed off as passé. But in some sectors, it’s catching up with the times.”
2 Timothy 4:3
“The time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear”.
At this point Paul was imprisoned, and knew that his execution was near. Writing to Timothy to remind him of the most important things of the Gospel. Of course folks have had their ear’s scratched for 2000+ years now.
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