Posted on 09/03/2021 7:59:10 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
It’s probably why they’ll be taking booster shots forever. The vaccinated are like addicts.
Public Health England
Protecting and improving the nation’s health
SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and
variants under investigation in
England
Technical briefing 20
6 August 2021
This briefing provides an update on previous briefings up to 23 July 2021
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Vaccinated 402/47,008 = 0.00855173587
Unvaccinated 253/151,054 = 0.00167489771
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pages 18-19 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1009243/Technical_Briefing_20.pdf
Utter rubbish.
But Israel also has a very low death rate from covid.
They are only comparing two groups of people who already got sick.
Try exposing 1000 vaxed and 1000 unvaxed to Covid and then compare numbers.
Those numbers would be convincing to anyone.
for you baseball fans..johnny bench has covid
It is legit. One minor typo - vaccinated should be “47,008,” instead of “47,000.” I posted the actual English gov source below.
It would be better, but not ideal. The age distribution would still not be comparable, though better than one without a cutoff. A set of random samples with the same median age would be closer yet.
This data says that.
Thank you for posting this but who ever wrote the NOQ article is not schooled in data analytics and we have enough arguments without trying apples to oranges-they used a young age group to seniors-the actual research article makes the opposite argument-unvaccinated die 3x more at same age comparison.
Sorry but this noqreport article will be used against conservatives to show how they like fake news. Why? It is not a correct comparison if you go to the actual research report here:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1009243/Technical_Briefing_20.pdf
You will see that the difference is age. 97% or 147,612 of the 151,054 unvaccinated are under 50 in a low risk group. For the vaccinated it is just 54% under 50 or 25,536
comparing just the high risk group over 50 age: for those un-vaccinated the death rate is about 6% , the vaccinated is 1.8% . Actual numbers below from actual research article:
In un-vaccinated group there were only 3,442 over 50 and 205 deaths, in vaccinated there were 21,472 and a 389 deaths or a death rate of .018 so the death rate is 3 times worse for un-vaccinated over 50.
Imagine that.
It seems *almost* intentional.
/do I really need the sarcasm tag?
Thats not a good comparison as the vaxed/unvaxed sets would differ, as the vax has been applied very disproportionately to the elderly. Two such sets with the same median age would work.
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Here’s a question... how come the COVID vax skeptics are the ones posting data? And the supposedly ‘scientific’ pro COVID vax people on this forum can at best muster scorn and derisive comments? To an outside observer, you blokes seem to have lost the argument.
Has there been an answer to the question of how so many cases were genome sequenced to declare Delta?
I was under the impression Delta was sequenced from samples and extrapolated.
The numbers could be skewed by the fact that the people most likely to have taken the VAX are also the most likely to die from contracting the coof.
The young and robust are not very afraid and less likely to be vaccinated...they are also unlikely to have bad outcomes.
So.. old, obese, frail, diabetic geezers who have been vaccinated are at greater risk simply because of their comorbidity.
I’m just commenting on how statistics can be misleading.. not on the efficacy of the VAX.
yep see my post 30 for details from research article:
comparing just the high risk group over 50 age: for those un-vaccinated the death rate is about 6% , the vaccinated is 1.8% . Actual numbers below from actual research article:
In un-vaccinated group there were only 3,442 over 50 and 205 deaths, in vaccinated there were 21,472 and a 389 deaths or a death rate of .018 so the death rate is 3 times worse for un-vaccinated over 50.
RSV. Interesting. Level headed.
All this other nonsense is supposition.
Some doctors posting here think you will just believe what they claim because, of course, they’re doctors!
Asking them to argue would be an insult.
Bkmk
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