Posted on 08/22/2021 1:10:37 PM PDT by Kaslin
There are many troubling aspects to the COVID vaccines and the growing mandates for them. Here I'd like to focus on one that is rarely discussed.
To begin with, when these unapproved vaccines were first made available to the public on an emergency basis, many people rushed headlong to get one. They were in a near panic. I saw this myself. This was due, to a large extent, to the panic whipped up in the mainstream media. The COVID virus was reported to be deadly. Its death toll (which we now know was highly inflated) was used to induce fear. Then the early adapters relied completely on pronouncements from the vaccine manufacturers and health authorities like Dr. Anthony Fauci and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Trust the science, it was said. The vaccines were both effective and safe.
Unfortunately, the population (and their primary care physicians) were denied the opportunity to hear alternative opinions on these novel vaccines from credible immunologists and other scientists. All views contrary to the official party line were squelched by the media and censored on social media. Thus, the decision to take a COVID vaccine early on was, at best, based on the word of the experts or, at worse, the emotion of fear.
As time moved on, however, alternative opinions and facts on the vaccines began escaping from the media bubble and from under the censorship of Big Tech. This new information included evidence showing that 1) the vaccines are not nearly as effective as advertised; 2) the survival rate from COVID is over 99 percent; and 3) a troubling number of people have experienced serious side effects, up to and including death.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
No.
I am amazed at how many here think they are re-incarnated Nostradamus, and can predict long term future effects from vaccine, without any data (data of future is still in the future), and without any medical qualifications.
The vax hesitant discuss the vax and in every thread, pro vax people come in and act like superior beings while call us insulting names. Seems like there’s an expert on every subject here on FR and they’re usually nasty people who denigrate and insult others.
I got the Pfizer jab. No effects at all-either the day after, nor in the 5-6 months since then.
Undoubtedly you are correct . Saw it here on this thread.
Also saw the reverse and had someone send me silly nonsense about the vaccines causing mad cow disease that will kill off 50% of the world in 2 years.
The hyperbole on both sides is way out of control.
i’m not anti-vaccine...
i’m anti-experimental shots...
please provide evidence that a “minority gang” of people are being pinged to descend on these threads like locusts...
Nobody wants to admit that they've been chumped.
How much time elapsed between getting the last shot and contracting the virus?
With you and others following right along to sling insults at them.
If you quit, you won’t get unemployment benefits.
Iām working on getting transferred back to Israel.
Weāre vax crazy but treat natural immunity as the same or better.
“Revuhrund JACKson’s “Breakthough Case” vaccinated hospitalization will turmoil the MSM this week, if the outcome is as we all suspect it will be.”
What outcome would cause a ruckus?
IF there were early outpatient home-based treatment, the VAST majority of people would never need to go to the hospital & estimates from docs who are treating is that 85% of those who have died would have lived (including high risk like diabetics, heart disease, etc.). Once you are bad enough to need hospitalization, typically the “approved” treatment is Remdesivir which doesn’t help much (& in fact, in some studies, increases mortality) & a vent.
There are doctors bucking the Fauci Regime and all that belong to it and are TREATING COVID patients. Here’s one good interview and there are plenty of others:
Dr. Brian Tyson ... look for this episode at the podcast link:
Ep 934 | The CA Doctor Who Saved Thousands of Lives by Treating the Virus Early
https://www.theblaze.com/podcasts/daniel-horowitz-podcast
Description:
āDoctors who refuse to treat the virus with numerous proven medicines are committing malpractice, according to todayās guest. Dr. Brian Tyson, co-owner of All Valley Urgent Care in El Centro, California, has treated over 6,000 COVID patients. Anyone who came to his clinic before day 7 of presenting with symptoms was cured without having to be admitted to the hospital. This is what the rest of the country would look like if other doctors would follow his guidance rather than the vacuous guidance of the government.ā
I am not at all convinced that the āmad cow diseaseā crowd is not one and the same as the obvious vax/CDC insiders.
Discredit and distraction are as effective tools as persuasion.
I would characterize the discussion I have seen as follows:
There is more misinformation in public discourse of COVID than there is, information. This, I believe, is intentional.
When I got my vaccinations, it was repeatedly stated to me in no uncertain terms that these vaccines were experimental, and had not yet received full FDA approval. I had to sign a form to confirm that I understood that the vaccine might not be effective or safe. Along with many millions of Americans, I KNOWINGLY chose to accept the risk. It's called informed consent, and I got informed and then consented.
I still think I made the right choice, but maybe I did not. I don't try to convince other people to get vaccinated. If the anti-vaxxers are correct, I'll be dead soon, and it would be good to have a few Americans around to pick up the pieces after all the vaxxed die. However, I'm not too worried about that.
The pro-vax safetyist fanatics are wrong, annoying, and perhaps dangerous, but so are fanatical anti-vaxxers who pretend that every death of a vaccinated patient is caused by the vaccine. Screw 'em both.
Thank you, President Trump, for giving me an opportunity to make my informed choice.
Nope.
But what I find fascinating is how the anti vax folks rant and rave. I got the shot months ago. I donāt care what anyone else does. Get the shot? Donāt get the shot? Donāt care.
No one forced me. No one is forcing you.
You guys need to get excited about something else.
Will they even connect the strokes and heart attacks that many will suffer in a year or two>
We'll leave aside the fact that this is not a vaccine in the true sense of the term. Pray that the micro-clots are just figments of imagination from many credentialed medical professionals, and that you will suffer no long-term consequences of the clots or from other surprises, which at this point remain unknown.
Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion,man
Thank you for the link, I enjoyed the interview. She certainly confirms the “military” design and that Fauci had his paws all over this.
However, I am highly skeptical of her other claims and she does not have a clean history. I will give her a pass on being jailed in 2011 for allegedly stealing data, but never charged. She was probably viewed as a troublemaker and punished for her conduct. I don’t believe, nor does she give convincing proof of how she thinks COVID is spread.
Further reference: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral
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