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3 Reasons China Won’t Invade Taiwan—And 1 Reason Why It Will
19FortyFive ^ | 8/16/2021 | Gordon Chang

Posted on 08/16/2021 5:58:17 AM PDT by Onthebrink

Gordon G. Chang is the author of The Coming Collapse of China and The Great U.S.-China Tech War. Follow him on Twitter @GordonGChang. Chang is also a Contributing Editor to 1945.

The costs in blood of such a move would be high. Richard Fisher of the Northern Virginia-based International Assessment and Strategy Center told 1945 that China could lose about 50,000 troops, sailors, and pilots even if it were able to both achieve complete surprise in mobilizing thousands of barges, ships, and planes and prevent others from coming to Taiwan’s rescue.

“Should China fail to gain complete surprise and the United States and Japan successfully mount a counterattack that included sea-air combat and combat on Taiwan, China could lose 100,000 troops,” Fisher said.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; china; crapblog; history; military; poswebsite; taiwan
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1 posted on 08/16/2021 5:58:17 AM PDT by Onthebrink
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To: Onthebrink

Interesting article.

If Xi wants to roll the dice, now is the best time.

He may never get another opportunity like it.

The crooks in DC are in total dis-array—even Stevie Wonder could see it.


2 posted on 08/16/2021 6:03:26 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Onthebrink

Why invade when a blockade would do it without all out war?


3 posted on 08/16/2021 6:03:48 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Onthebrink

Worse than losing 100K troops?

They won’t retake the island.

They’d lose 1 million before they’d let the world see them as losers.


4 posted on 08/16/2021 6:03:54 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! ("You, the American people, are my only special interest." --President Donald J. Trump)
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To: Onthebrink

For now, China is using propaganda to weaken the will of the Taiwanese to get them to be willing to unify to avoid war.


5 posted on 08/16/2021 6:05:50 AM PDT by Jonty30 (My superpower is setting people up for failure, without meaning to. )
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To: Onthebrink
For some reason, seeing the picture of the guy sitting in that tank wearing the headset made me think of Michael Dukakis...

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2008/01/17/the-photo-op-that-tanked

6 posted on 08/16/2021 6:10:31 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: Onthebrink

“The costs in blood of such a move would be high”

A populous country suffering a surplus of young men, and facing limited supply with a need to reduce demand, may find such cost desirable to pay.


7 posted on 08/16/2021 6:20:03 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: Jonty30
Sun Tzu would approve...
8 posted on 08/16/2021 6:37:29 AM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground - Mencken)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

9 posted on 08/16/2021 6:48:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Onthebrink

They don’t need total surprise.

They wrote the book on creating the chaos and distraction for the time needed to transit the strait.

If I had to make a bold prediction, Taiwan would fold in mere hours. And the Chinese know it.

The bigger question is the response, and if now isn’t the right time, a series of bombs going off in multiple US cities (and a couple in ME ports on USN ships) would provide the needed distraction.

And they have all the agents in place for such an action.


10 posted on 08/16/2021 6:48:14 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Onthebrink

100k....that’s chump change to the chi-coms.


11 posted on 08/16/2021 6:49:24 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Onthebrink

5-10 divisions lost is a drop in the bucket for the Chinese. They lost a million men in Korea before they slowed down. Taiwan is a huge prize and we are too distracted to be effective.


12 posted on 08/16/2021 6:49:43 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Onthebrink

A drop in the bucket. Just watch what happens when China sinks one of our carriers. The US subs will launch non nuclear missiles like Roman candles.


13 posted on 08/16/2021 6:51:19 AM PDT by DownInFlames (G)
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To: Onthebrink
I guess when they say "China" they are referring to West Taiwan??


14 posted on 08/16/2021 8:02:20 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Fraud vitiates everything.” )
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To: cgbg

I don’t see XI doing anything to Taiwan before the Beijing Winter Olympics. China loves few things more than a big international show.

But, they will almost certainly make their move while Biden is President. With him, Xi knows he can mute the response.


15 posted on 08/16/2021 8:05:30 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: Onthebrink

100,000, nothing compared to losing the three gorges damn...


16 posted on 08/16/2021 8:42:54 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: cgbg

Yes, and puppet in the white house.


17 posted on 08/16/2021 9:30:50 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

If Xi wants to roll the dice, now is the best time.
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If Xi wants to roll the dice, now is the best time.
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Biden waves prearranged white flag.
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Pray folks.


18 posted on 08/16/2021 9:47:29 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran/\)
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To: Onthebrink

China does not have the resources for an invasion. Any ship or helicopter are sitting ducks for missiles.


19 posted on 08/16/2021 4:15:28 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: SunkenCiv; nuconvert; gandalftb; AmericanInTokyo
The Chinese communist propaganda view:

Once a cross-Straits war breaks out while the mainland seizes the island with forces, the US would have to have a much greater determination than it had for Afghanistan, Syria, and Vietnam if it wants to interfere. A military intervention of the US will be a move to change the status quo in the Taiwan Straits, and this will make Washington pay a huge price rather than earn profit.

Some people on the island of Taiwan hype that the island is different from Afghanistan, and that the US wouldn't leave them alone. Indeed, the island is different from Afghanistan. But the difference is the deeper hopelessness of a US victory if it gets itself involved in a cross-Straits war. Such a war would mean unthinkable costs for the US, in front of which the so-called special importance of Taiwan is nothing but wishful thinking of the DPP authorities and secessionist forces on the island.

The DPP authorities need to keep a sober head, and the secessionist forces should reserve the ability to wake up from their dreams. From what happened in Afghanistan, they should perceive that once a war breaks out in the Straits, the island's defense will collapse in hours and the US military won't come to help. As a result, the DPP authorities will quickly surrender, while some high-level officials may flee by plane.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202108/1231636.shtml

20 posted on 08/18/2021 1:57:28 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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