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Gay men not qualified for ministry, Presbyterian Church in America votes
The Washington Times ^ | July 2, 2021 | Mark A. Kellner

Posted on 07/05/2021 1:50:16 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat

The conservative Presbyterian Church in America voted Thursday to disqualify all gay men from serving in its ministry.

The 1,400-400 vote to change its governing document came at the denomination’s 48th General Assembly, held this week in St. Louis.

The rule change, known as “Overture 23,” will go to local church bodies known as “presbyteries” for a vote before a second round of convention balloting next year that would place the language in the denomination’s “Book of Church Order,” which governs PCA practice....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: church; gay; homosexualagenda; overture23; pca; presbyterian; presbyterianchurch; sexpositiveagenda; suckstobegay
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To: CheshireTheCat

Stand for the truth


21 posted on 07/05/2021 2:53:36 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: CheshireTheCat

there is a prominent PCA pastor in St. Louis who is upset over this vote.

He is homosexual but celibate. He says if homosexuals are celibate, they should be able to lead churches. (I am pretty sure he said he was homosexual AFTER being put in his current station, though I could be wrong.)

I think the assembly made the correct decision. Should not have even been that close.


22 posted on 07/05/2021 2:53:56 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: CheshireTheCat; Gamecock

Reformed ping?


23 posted on 07/05/2021 2:54:22 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: CheshireTheCat; Saint Athanasius

Actually surprised by this vote. Thought Presbyterians fairly liberal...


24 posted on 07/05/2021 3:12:11 PM PDT by rhinohunter
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To: CheshireTheCat

Uh oh. They are going against the established church. /smirk.


25 posted on 07/05/2021 3:20:38 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: CheshireTheCat

This is excellent news and good ministry for real Christians who are tempted in this area. They need a strong consistent biblical position, not excuses and equivocation.

Praise God


26 posted on 07/05/2021 3:26:57 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: lightman; xzins
Very impressed by the language they used in the resolution. It is quite scripturally sound. UMC congregations "on the fence" need to hear this:
“Those who profess an identity (such as gay Christian,’ ‘same-sex attracted Christian,’ ‘homosexual Christian,’ or like terms) that undermines or contradicts their identity as new creations in Christ, either by denying the sinfulness of fallen desires (such as, but not limited to, same-sex attraction) or by denying the reality and hope of progressive sanctification, or by failing to pursue Spirit-empowered victory over their sinful temptations, inclinations, and actions are not qualified for ordained office.”

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“…Careful reflection must be given to his practical struggle against sinful actions, as well as to persistent sinful desires. The candidate must give clear testimony of reliance upon his union with Christ and the benefits thereof by the Holy Spirit, depending on this work of grace to make progress over sin. … While imperfection will remain, he should not be known by reputation or self-profession according to his remaining sinfulness (e.g., homosexual desires, etc.), but rather by the work of the Holy Spirit in Christ Jesus.”


27 posted on 07/05/2021 3:27:20 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
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To: rhinohunter

There are strong Bible believing Presbyterian denominations. Naparc.org lists them.


28 posted on 07/05/2021 3:30:06 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: OrangeHoof

1970s? Probably even as late as the early 2000s.


29 posted on 07/05/2021 3:43:16 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: dfwgator

Who’s “they”?


30 posted on 07/05/2021 3:55:24 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem by far: most of the news media is agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

The next step should be to expel the 400. 1 Thess 4:1-8 says those 400 have rejected God.


31 posted on 07/05/2021 4:08:27 PM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: CheshireTheCat

The next step should be to expel the 400. 1 Thess 4:1-8 says those 400 have rejected God.


32 posted on 07/05/2021 4:08:27 PM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: Albion Wilde; LiteKeeper

Any idea why they had to deal with this issue?


33 posted on 07/05/2021 4:46:40 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: Albion Wilde; LiteKeeper

Any idea why they had to deal with this issue?


34 posted on 07/05/2021 4:48:14 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: Gamecock

What’s going on here?


35 posted on 07/05/2021 4:58:36 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: CheshireTheCat

Catholic here, but I must say that I admire and respect this Church for having the strength to stand up against the unnatural actions of some.

YES, it is unnatural.


36 posted on 07/05/2021 5:01:18 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: CheshireTheCat

Good!

The unrepentant should be ministered to, not ministering!


37 posted on 07/05/2021 5:37:58 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Libloather

Pooper chute follies


38 posted on 07/05/2021 5:38:51 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: rhinohunter

Not this Presbyterian denomination. The PCUSA are the liberals. The PCA (full disclosure: it’s my own denom.) broke away from them (in 1982, I think) over numerous theological issues.


39 posted on 07/05/2021 5:40:16 PM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

What about women?


40 posted on 07/05/2021 5:41:16 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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