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Liberals, conservatives, and libertarians agree with each other that Biden’s proposed ban on menthol cigarettes will increase the number of interactions between black people and the police, just like his previous crime bill did
wordpress ^ | April 29, 2021 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 04/29/2021 5:12:09 PM PDT by grundle

Liberals, conservatives, and libertarians agree with each other that Biden’s proposed ban on menthol cigarettes will increase the number of interactions between black people and the police, just like his previous crime bill did

Liberals at the ACLU are worried about it:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/biden-admin-expected-to-take-steps-to-ban-menthol-cigarettes/ar-BB1g9iJI

Conservatives at Breitbart are worried about it:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/29/nolte-ban-menthol-cigs-racist-criminalization-black-behavior/

Libertarians at Reason are worried about it:

https://reason.com/2021/04/26/a-ban-on-menthol-cigarettes-will-lead-to-more-confrontations-between-black-people-and-police/

And here are two previous articles from the New York Times about how Biden’s crime bill hurt black people:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190914095205/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/27/us/politics/joe-biden-crime-bill-mass-incarceration.html

Joe Biden on Crime and Mass Incarceration

During the ’80s and ’90s, Mr. Biden helped shepherd a string of bills that transformed the criminal justice system — and, experts say, hurt America’s black communities.

June 27, 2019

As Joseph R. Biden Jr. makes his third run for the White House, he is being pressed to answer for his role in legislation that criminal justice experts say helped lay the groundwork for the mass incarceration that has devastated America’s black communities.

During the 1980s and 1990s, when Mr. Biden was a senator from Delaware, he and other leaders of the powerful Senate Judiciary Committee helped fashion a string of bills that overhauled the country’s crime laws.

Among the most significant were: the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984, which established mandatory minimum sentences for drug offenses; the 1986 Anti-Drug Abuse Act, which imposed harsher sentences for possession of crack than for possession of powder cocaine; and the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which was essentially a catchall tough-on-crime bill.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20210101105655/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/us/joe-biden-crime-laws.html

‘Lock the S.O.B.s Up’: Joe Biden and the Era of Mass Incarceration

He now plays down his role overhauling crime laws with segregationist senators in the ’80s and ’90s. That portrayal today is at odds with his actions and rhetoric back then.

June 25, 2019

Now, more than 25 years later, as Mr. Biden makes his third run for the White House in a crowded field of Democrats – many calling for ambitious criminal justice reform — he must answer for his role in legislation that criminal justice experts and his critics say helped lay the groundwork for the mass incarceration that has devastated America’s black communities. That he worked with segregationists to write the bills — an issue that recently dominated the political news and seems likely to resurface in Mr. Biden’s first debate on Thursday – has only added to his challenge. So has the fact that black voters are such a crucial Democratic constituency.


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1 posted on 04/29/2021 5:12:09 PM PDT by grundle
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There should be a provision that lets the police use lethal force against anyone trying to sell illegal menthol cigarettes on the street.


2 posted on 04/29/2021 5:17:29 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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The police...always the police. If they refused to enforce this shit we’d all be better off. Another loosie murder waiting to happen.


3 posted on 04/29/2021 5:18:58 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: grundle

Is there a national crisis related to menthol cigarettes?

I don’t think so.

Their research must have told them this would foment more Burning, Looting and Murder.


4 posted on 04/29/2021 5:19:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Anti-racism looks suspiciously like racism.)
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To: grundle


5 posted on 04/29/2021 5:19:30 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there is no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: grundle

Even if blacks were not effected more this is madness.....more nanny statism and I have never smoked a menthol cig in my life.

Laws,laws,laws....all to protect us.

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6 posted on 04/29/2021 5:19:37 PM PDT by Mears (.)
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To: kaehurowing

“There should be a provision that lets the police use lethal force against anyone trying to sell illegal menthol cigarettes on the street.”

How about the government leaves us the f@#k alone? :)


7 posted on 04/29/2021 5:22:12 PM PDT by dljordan (Slouching towards Woketopia)
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To: kaehurowing

Sure. BLM will love that. More victims for them to feed off of and agitate against cops.

WTF. Nobody could keep people off of booze during prohibition, nor weed or coke or heroine, or even meth and opioids. They really think they can ban menthol “loosies”? Do these people learn nothing?


8 posted on 04/29/2021 5:23:05 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all the time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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To: grundle

Let’s ban watermelon!

ML/NJ


9 posted on 04/29/2021 5:24:14 PM PDT by ml/nj (DITCH MITCH !t)
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To: grundle
New Products:

Menthol flavored Marijuana.

Menthol Flavored Fentanyl.

10 posted on 04/29/2021 5:24:45 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Don't blame me, I Voted for the guy who actually Won the 2020 Presidential Election...)
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To: grundle

I used to smoke Kools and I’m 100% White European ancestry.


11 posted on 04/29/2021 5:25:25 PM PDT by dainbramaged ( Zulus to the Southwest - thousands of 'em.)
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To: Mears

I used to. They’re delicious. Now that I quit smoking, I get my fix from Fisherman’s Friend cough lozenges. Far out, man.


12 posted on 04/29/2021 5:25:37 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all the time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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To: grundle

What percentage of the black vote did Biden get? They voted for him to ban menthol cigarettes. Have at it.


13 posted on 04/29/2021 5:26:49 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: grundle

Even though I am a white man, I smoke Marlboro menthol lights. Does this mean I have to stock up on menthol cigs like I do 5.56?


14 posted on 04/29/2021 5:27:17 PM PDT by DeplorablePaul (s)
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To: grundle

Going to need jobs for the displaced mask police.


15 posted on 04/29/2021 5:27:19 PM PDT by Cboldt
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Drawing a blank here. Why would a ban on menthol smokes increase police/black interaction?


16 posted on 04/29/2021 5:27:41 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: grundle

Skip the incremental steps, ban all cigarettes and vape so that it equally applies to everyone. Our nation’s health and finances, except the taxes collected, will improve.


17 posted on 04/29/2021 5:28:14 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Wo)
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To: ml/nj

Ripple and fried chicken, too.


18 posted on 04/29/2021 5:28:55 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all the time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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To: dainbramaged

I used to years ago.


19 posted on 04/29/2021 5:29:18 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (RIP my "teddy bear". )
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To: dainbramaged

Of all the problems and menthol cigs are a issue? Like so much crazy crap and everything is racis’. I am as white as a ghost and used to smoke Newports. Don’t ask what I was thinking thank God I quit smoking.


20 posted on 04/29/2021 5:30:10 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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