Posted on 04/05/2021 3:37:52 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
...Observers following the trial closely have described most of the prosecution witnesses and evidence as middling at best. Some of the eyewitnesses who cajoled the police were less than impressive on the stand, several being admonished by the judge for giving evasive answers. One older black gentleman urged Floyd to stop resisting arrest, which provides some context for the police behavior. And, in the biggest surprise, while we were told George was crying for his mama as he lay dying on the street, it turns out his drug addict girlfriend was saved in his phone as “Mama.” She also revealed Floyd had dealt drugs, had a similar overdose only months earlier, and recently relapsed.
The media has mostly downplayed these details.
One serious problem with the media is that it is so used to packaging news into ideological narratives that the general public has no idea really what’s happening. It’s not just a question of slant or editorializing; the facts are concealed, revealed, or even made up as necessary to support a message.
This is true in this case and in many others. While the availability of raw data and some exposure to original sources alleviates this, most people do not have the time, energy, or inclination to dig into every fishy story. And certain people are particularly credulous, especially when believing the narrative accrues social approval.
For the Chauvin trial, mainstream media reports have uniformly emphasized the prosecution scoring points. Floyd’s drug use and violent activities have been given short shrift. Prosecution missteps—the “mama” incident, the defiant female firefighter at the scene, the MMA expert who apparently did not know how a “blood choke” works in jujitsu—have not helped the prosecution’s case...
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I would REALLY hate to be on that jury.
Whatever the verdict the judge will throw a bone to the other side. 1st degree no. 2nd or 3rd there will be riots. The judge/jury will think of their own interests.
I watch David Muir on ABC. Every night we hear of the “gripping testimony”, the “hard to watch” videos, and the “compelling witnesses”. It’s all BS!
I hope the Jury votes to Burn Minneapolis to the ground, it would be a fair verdict.
I’m a criminal defense attorney. I haven’t had time to watch the Floyd trial. But I would venture to say that the big question is where and when George Floyd died. If he died at the scene of asphyxiation, then Chauvin committed second degree murder at least. If George Floyd died in the hospital of a drug overdose, then Chauvin is at most guilty of aggravated assault. IMHO, of course.
It doesn’t matter which way it goes, they’re already setting up for a riot.
“the media is . . . so used to packaging news into ideological narratives that the general public has no idea really what’s happening”
That right there.
I don’t expect this to be a fair trial. I expect the race hustlers to egg the street people in to “ah gets me a noo TV” looting and rioting.
“gripping testamony”, “hard to watch”, “compelling witnesses”
Anybody that uses such terminology during a news broadcast is not reporting the news. They are making opinionated commentary which is why I don’t watch the news any longer.
Pretty sure they administered CPR to George Floyd after he was placed in the ambulance. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
The autopsy says there was no asphyxiation or damage to the throat, wondpipe and neck. No petikiai.
One of theEMT’s also said george Floyd’s pupils were huge. I guess that’s a sogm of Fentanyl in the system.
Floyd could have died of an overdose at the scene.
I think you’re probably right; it seems to me that he did not cut off Floyd’s air supply, dreadful though the hold looks, but he ought to have realized that he was in medical distress, a likely OD, and might have been helped by Narcan. No heroes here; the deceased precipitated his own demise if the allegations of lethal levels of Meth and Fentanil are true, and the super-charged racial atmosphere at the site, and that’s been intentionally induced in the whole country, surely made the situation worse.
And what if George Floyd died at the scene from a drug overdose?
The truth doesn’t matter. The jury has either been bribed or their families and/or livelihoods threatened in order that a guilty verdict is returned.
If he made it to the hospital and maybe an hour or two after, then Chauvin is not guilty of murder as they can’t show anything like direct causation. If he died at the scene or in the ambulance minutes later, then not so much. Chauvin was a grade-a a$$hole who is guilty of at least aggravated assault but maybe not murder, we shall see.
Then Chauvin would not be guilty of murder, which requires that the murderer caused the death another human being with whatever state of mind required for the exact charge.
Generally speaking, that's negligence for manslaughter, reckless disregard for second degree murder, and premeditation for first degree murder. I think a jury could probably find all three here. He was negligent by kneeling on Floyd's neck in the first instance (if I recall kneeling on necks is not allowed under police procedures which is the "standard of care" by which negligence would be judged, but I could be wrong). Negligence could easily grow to recklessness (consciously comprehending a serious danger and callously disregarding it) as here other assisting cops told Chauvin that he shouldn't do what he was doing. Recklessness could become premeditation with all those repeated warnings from assisting officers, bystanders, and George Floyd himself all saying that kneeling on his neck was hurting him.
But it seems to me that before the jury gets to state of mind they have to first decide whether Chauvin actually caused George Floyd's death. It seems to me that this is the question that is getting drowned out in the media hype.
As I wrote the foregoing a fourth possibility occurred to me (although I don't know if the DA charged it in this case) - i.e. "felony murder." The idea is that if one commits a felony like bank robbery and in the course of the felony somebody is killed then that's a species of murder. The theory here would be that Chauvin was in the process of committing a felony assault on Floyd that resulted directly in Floyd's death so Chauvin would be guilty of felony murder.
Funny, this whole case would make a great law school exam question. It has so much going on.
I watched a good portion of the Police Chief’s testimony today.
The prosecution made a big deal about the amount of training.
What was being overlooked is how competent were the trainers.
Far too many organizations conduct training classes and most of the students tune out because the trainer does not know what they are talking about.
I’d never hire you if my life was in the balance, gay sailor.
And another n00b troll.
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