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April 12, 1861: The Civil War Begins
Fold3 ^ | April 1, 2021 | Jenny Ashcraft

Posted on 04/02/2021 9:04:55 AM PDT by gattaca

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To: CodeToad

Actually, the first shot was fired on the Star of the West by Citadel Cadets


21 posted on 04/02/2021 10:29:05 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: Nateman

Do you think Grover Cleveland was conservative or liberal?

Do you think Teddy Roosevelt was conservative or liberal?

Now compare to Woody Wilson.


22 posted on 04/02/2021 10:42:56 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: gattaca

The American Civil War or How the South got it’s ass kicked.


23 posted on 04/02/2021 10:48:14 AM PDT by jmacusa (The result of conformity is everyone will like you but yourself.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Dinesh is a resentful inferiority complex brown man

Pity so many drink him up

The stupids


24 posted on 04/02/2021 10:54:44 AM PDT by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG lz’’z:s)
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To: jeffersondem

the disaster at Appomattox.

The disaster was the firing on Fort Sumter. If that had not happened, there would have been no Appomattox.


25 posted on 04/02/2021 11:50:12 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: gattaca

The South has been paying for losing that war ever since.


26 posted on 04/02/2021 12:32:02 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Huh? Grover Cleveland never owned any slaves.

Ditto for Teddy Roosevelt. As governor of New York, he ended school segregation. Just one month after Roosevelt was sworn in as President, he invited Booker T. Washington, a black civil rights activist, to dine at the White House.

27 posted on 04/02/2021 12:39:29 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Midwesterner53
The South has been paying for losing that war ever since.

Really? LBJ. Jimmy Carter. Bill Clinton. Both Bush's. I'd say they've gotten their revenge and then some.

28 posted on 04/02/2021 1:08:17 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

The War for Southern Independence.


29 posted on 04/02/2021 1:33:55 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Midwesterner53

The whole country has. The original constitution died at Appamattox and was replaced by one in which the federal government no longer respected any limitations on its own power. The result as Lee predicted, is out of control debts, constant foreign meddling and oppression at home.


30 posted on 04/02/2021 1:37:23 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Do you think Grover Cleveland was conservative or liberal?

Conservative. One of the few Democrats I like.

Do you think Teddy Roosevelt was conservative or liberal?

Liberal.

Now compare to Woody Wilson.

Communist.

Taft is not mentioned often but he is high on my Sh*t list. He went to Congress and pushed for the Income Tax. Unfortunately they did what he wanted . This Cancerous amendment essentially made all of us into free range slaves and fed the Federal Monster into the beast it is today.

31 posted on 04/02/2021 1:47:15 PM PDT by Nateman (Keep Liberty Alive! Article V)
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To: FLT-bird
The War for Southern Independence.

I think the War of Southern Rebellion is more accurate but that's just me.

32 posted on 04/02/2021 1:56:58 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Ping.

5.56mm


33 posted on 04/02/2021 2:08:41 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho ain't my president.)
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To: Nateman

So the point is, be careful who you think is a (modern) Repub and a (modern) Dem.

Teddy and Woody were both “progressives” - and president-wise, the perfect tipping point on when one became tyrannical and the other stopped.

The slavery thing really is overblown, and look who beats on it now. So you know likely you shouldn’t be lionizing Lincoln and the rest of the old Republicans, because they love them.


34 posted on 04/02/2021 2:10:06 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: DoodleDawg

Same as RevWar.

If they wanted to leave, let them leave. Why “union” at the point of a gun?


35 posted on 04/02/2021 2:10:44 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: DoodleDawg

The South wanted out.


36 posted on 04/02/2021 2:13:59 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: gattaca

April 12, 1970 - Just to the southeast of Houston, TX for a grand sum of less than $500 (no insurance, either), ro_dreaming was born to the world.


37 posted on 04/02/2021 2:14:33 PM PDT by ro_dreaming ("XX = female; XY = male. Who's the science deniers now?" - Me)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
If they wanted to leave, let them leave. Why “union” at the point of a gun?

Walking out without negotiation, without paying for your share of national obligations, taking every piece of property you can get your paws on, and shooting up a fort on the way out the door are not actions that promote an amicable separation. The South wanted their war, they got it. Sorry it didn't work out the way they had planned.

38 posted on 04/02/2021 2:14:44 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: eyedigress
The South wanted out.

And they started a war to get out and then went and lost it. Sorry if I can't whip up a lot of sympathy for them when they do that.

39 posted on 04/02/2021 2:15:45 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

DC had no authority to keep them obligated to the union.

Show me where it is authorized. Anything not addressed in the Constitution is left to the states.


40 posted on 04/02/2021 2:26:36 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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