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April 12, 1861: The Civil War Begins
Fold3 ^ | April 1, 2021 | Jenny Ashcraft

Posted on 04/02/2021 9:04:55 AM PDT by gattaca

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To: M Kehoe

Hey, an article from the future. How did you do that?


41 posted on 04/02/2021 2:32:39 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: eyedigress
DC had no authority to keep them obligated to the union.

Article I, Section 8 gives Congress the authority "for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions".

42 posted on 04/02/2021 2:42:15 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Succession is not insurrection.


43 posted on 04/02/2021 2:59:06 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: eyedigress
Succession is not insurrection.

Insurrection is insurrection. Which is what the Southern states did.

44 posted on 04/02/2021 3:01:10 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Wow, sounds like the so-called RevWar.


45 posted on 04/02/2021 3:06:42 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: eyedigress

Please spell it right. ;-)


46 posted on 04/02/2021 3:07:38 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: DoodleDawg

No. The states in the south did succeed from the union.

The US Constitution had no provision for that, therefore it was left to the states to do just that if they wished.

There is no insurrection of a government you do not belong to.

The “War of Northern Aggression” is the applicable term.


47 posted on 04/02/2021 3:17:34 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

sorry


48 posted on 04/02/2021 3:17:55 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

“How did you do that?”

I have a Delorean.

Aluminum beer cans work best, but in a pinch I can go Eco mode and burn olive oil.

5.56mm


49 posted on 04/02/2021 3:19:31 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho ain't my president.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade; Nateman; wardaddy; stainlessbanner; 4CJ

Dinesh is a go-to guy if you want faked history cut and fit to serve present day partisan politics.

There often appears to be a contest between D’Souza and Glenn Beck to see who can peddle the most bull**** masquerading as history. They get away with it because most people haven’t read enough history to catch them at it. And I suspect it pays well and beats having to do honest work for a living.


50 posted on 04/02/2021 3:24:06 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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To: DoodleDawg

Tell me why the Supreme Court did not take up any case when South Carolina ceded from the union?


51 posted on 04/02/2021 3:26:27 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: Meatspace

The war against Confederate Treason


52 posted on 04/02/2021 3:29:46 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up!)
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To: cowboyusa

What treason is that?


53 posted on 04/02/2021 3:32:31 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: gattaca

I just bought Shelby Foote’s three volume set on the Civil War. I’m interested in learning about the events and communication methods that led to the event.


54 posted on 04/02/2021 3:33:10 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: eyedigress; DoodleDawg

“Once in, always in”, an early and American version of the Brezhnev Doctrine.

In both cases if you objected, the powerful central government was eager and willing to slaughter you to correct your misperception.

Probably not a coincidence that OG commie Karl Marx was an ardent supporter of the 1860 episode.


55 posted on 04/02/2021 3:33:56 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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To: Bull Snipe

“If that had not happened, there would have been no Appomattox.”

If the Declaration of Independence had not happened, there would have been no Appomattox.

So what does your statement mean?

Nothing.


56 posted on 04/02/2021 3:42:01 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: eyedigress

Trying to leave and RIP apart the US. Confederates and the left are the same, they both hate the US.


57 posted on 04/02/2021 3:45:52 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up!)
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To: jeffersondem

Sumpter led to the disaster that was the war. All Appomattox was the last gasp of one side going down in total defeat.


58 posted on 04/02/2021 3:46:46 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: cowboyusa

What do you think got every individual government to sign off on a central point of governance of the states?


59 posted on 04/02/2021 3:48:31 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: DoodleDawg

I think war for Southern Independence more fitting. After all, they were simply leaving an oppressive regime just like their fathers and grandfathers had done.


60 posted on 04/02/2021 3:50:45 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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