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Frankenstein Warships: The Biggest Battleships Never Built
19FortyFive ^ | 2/11/2021 | Peter Suicu

Posted on 02/11/2021 7:46:52 AM PST by Onthebrink

Also known as the Super Yamato-class, the Design A-150 battleship began in late 1938 and it was to be armed with at least six 510mm (20-inch) guns as well as dozens of smaller caliber weapons. The warship as it was originally envisioned was also 91,000 metric tons (90,000 long tons) and yet would be fast enough to maintain a speed of 30 knots – faster than the American Navy’s North Carolina-class battleships, which could maintain a speed of 27 knots.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: battleship; blogpimp; history; navy; usmilitary
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1 posted on 02/11/2021 7:46:53 AM PST by Onthebrink
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To: KC_Lion

Ping.


2 posted on 02/11/2021 7:52:55 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Onthebrink

Bigger isn’t better. Think the Bismarck.

I also recall a documentary a few years back where Nazi Germany built one model of a super huge tank. I do not recall the specs, but it was a monster. The problem was not enough materials to go into production. IMO the real problem was being a huge waste of resources as it could have been easily knocked out. Where as if the same resources were used to build smaller tanks more would survive to do their intended tasks before being knocked out... If that makes sense.


3 posted on 02/11/2021 7:58:36 AM PST by redfreedom (You can vote your way into socialism, but you may have to shoot your way out.)
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To: Onthebrink
Well, that's it. I'm done with Janes and going with 19FortyFive.

Much more thoroughly researched.

Much better written.

Much cheaper.

(And I'm being much more sarcastic.)

4 posted on 02/11/2021 8:00:38 AM PST by real saxophonist (The mouse doesn't understand why the cheese is free.)
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To: Onthebrink

It’s a good thing Billy Mitchell wasn’t Japanese. Just imagine if the Imperial Navy had said screw those old battleships — we’re pouring all our resources into carriers.


5 posted on 02/11/2021 8:01:34 AM PST by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: redfreedom

Another issue, at least with humongous tanks, is mobility. The Tiger tanks were too heavy for many road bridges, such as those in the Ardennes.


6 posted on 02/11/2021 8:10:11 AM PST by PLMerite
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To: redfreedom

Think Bismarck’s problem wasn’t size but a) there was only one of them and b) it was used in the wrong role. Should have sent fast cruisers on commerce raiding.


7 posted on 02/11/2021 8:13:41 AM PST by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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To: JerryBlackwell

The Tirpitz was the Bismark’s sister ship.


8 posted on 02/11/2021 8:15:04 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Wonder how the sink the Bismarck story would have played out if they sent Tirpitz too.


9 posted on 02/11/2021 8:17:09 AM PST by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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To: Onthebrink

Bkmk


10 posted on 02/11/2021 8:17:39 AM PST by sauropod (#ImpeachMcConnell. #Resist. #NotMyPresident.)
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To: JerryBlackwell

The Bismark got unlucky and a torpedo hit the steering gear. A 1 in 1,000 lucky shot for the RN.


11 posted on 02/11/2021 8:18:59 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Guy in this video speculates it was a 1 in 1,000 shot that sunk the Hood too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83WS54ZQEBg


12 posted on 02/11/2021 8:23:09 AM PST by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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To: Onthebrink

Dreams versus reality and practicality! There are many that think it was a mistake for Germany to build its ‘Pocket Battleships’ like the Bismark and her sisters. If the same resources had been put into the U-Boat fleet, Britain might have been starved into submission.

Ditto, and even worse, with the IJN supers, the Yamato-class Battleships. Japan’s chronic metal shortage became a cause of war when FDR embargoed scrap-metal and other resource purchases in the late 1930s. If, instead, the IJN had gone to added carriers and smaller ‘gun’ ships AND an aggressive sub force of their own, they would have gotten a better force. We, of the Allied Nations, should be happy that autocrats can see such ‘shiny objects’ as these being so attractive!

Of course, our own USN was very divided over Battleship vs Carrier in the pre-war era. The fact that Pearl Harbor left the Carriers to be the strong arm in the vast Pacific for those early years, made the transition to the predominant air-power an easier move than if that rivalry stayed hot!


13 posted on 02/11/2021 8:23:58 AM PST by SES1066 (I love my Country, but I fear too much Government!)
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To: SES1066
I've read that the US had 109 carriers in the Pacific at the end of WW2.

Most were small Escort Carriers


14 posted on 02/11/2021 8:55:14 AM PST by blam
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To: Onthebrink

Thanks for posting this!


15 posted on 02/11/2021 9:02:39 AM PST by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: blam; SES1066

From blam’s wiki link, at end of article:

“Of the 151 aircraft carriers built in the U.S. during World War II, 122 were escort carriers.”


16 posted on 02/11/2021 9:05:09 AM PST by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: blam

adding a little known fact.

“During World War II, the United States Navy purchased two Great Lakes side-wheel paddle steamers and converted them into freshwater aircraft carrier training ships. Both vessels were designated with the hull classification symbol IX and lacked hangar decks, elevators or armaments. The role of these ships was for the training of pilots for carrier take-offs and landings. Together Sable and Wolverine trained 17,820 pilots in 116,000 carrier landings.”


17 posted on 02/11/2021 9:15:21 AM PST by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Onthebrink

How much does 1945 pay you to continually pimp their site?


18 posted on 02/11/2021 9:16:03 AM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Covenantor
“Of the 151 aircraft carriers built in the U.S. during World War II, 122 were escort carriers.”

151, in three years.

It now takes nine years to build one.

As Stalin said, "quantity has a quality all its own".

19 posted on 02/11/2021 9:18:02 AM PST by Jim Noble (He who saves his nation violates no law)
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To: Onthebrink

Well, the Yamato worked out well so the Super Yamato should make a bigger “splash.”


20 posted on 02/11/2021 9:33:06 AM PST by Renkluaf
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