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(vanity) Someone please explain the Gamestop / silver market / Redditors thing to me like I'm 5 years old
self | 2/1/2001 | NewJerseyJoe

Posted on 02/01/2021 4:35:56 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe

Or a link that explains it. Thank you

Even after watching Trading Places for 30+ years, I still don't understand exactly what they were doing at the stock exchange. ๐Ÿ™


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: gamestop; hedgefunds; redditors; silver
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

You can ask, but Iโ€™m not telling.


21 posted on 02/01/2021 4:53:22 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Trump is a deposed Pres. in exile. America is truly a banana republic. Our govt. has been overthrown)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Hedge funds have the legal ability for investors to do things like short sell.

Short selling involves borrowing shares in order to sell them with the expectation they buy the same shares and return them (when the price later drops). This is sometimes good for reasons I don’t understand.

Market prices are influenced by activity, so if a stock is shorted the price can go down. Selling can decrease value.

If you understand this, then you understand how short selling can decrease the value of a stock.

Hedge funds engage in short selling as a balance to stabilize other competing stock they hold for the long term in a portfolio. This is important because what happens with short selling can effect what happens with the entire portfolio of the hedge fund.

So when the price rose suddenly it becomes difficult for the hedge fund to repay the borrowed shares that have gone up in value due to demand. So price goes up, they have to start selling their long-term investments to capitalize, or they have to borrow money from the bank.

That’s a start of what is happening.

Someone can correct me if they know more about it.


22 posted on 02/01/2021 4:53:24 AM PST by Bayard
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

The Harvard/Yale/Wharton brie and wine group had their ass kicked by the pizza and beer, High School graduates.....


23 posted on 02/01/2021 4:53:29 AM PST by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
Seems like the Reddit chat group threw a monkey wrench into the corrupt system by getting a lot of people to buy stocks that have been short sold. The short-selling corrupt people are then stuck and can't make a profit, in fact they lose a lot.

The part I don't understand is how they get people to buy a stock. I guess it doesn't matter, they did get the job done.
24 posted on 02/01/2021 4:53:39 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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To: nevergore

Yep, silver is the next target for those cheeky boys.


25 posted on 02/01/2021 4:54:12 AM PST by Pigsley
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To: HighSierra5
actually wallstreetbets buy low. jack the price up another group sells high then buy low.

In between that the wall street thieves that been jacking our economy for decades. put in a sell then buy order at the wrong timing using their auto trading preset computers and lost. wallstreetbets figured out the wall street idiots timing exploited it

26 posted on 02/01/2021 4:54:28 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Try this for the Gamestop thing...

Stocks, Shorting, and GME (Gamestop) explained lovingly

27 posted on 02/01/2021 4:54:41 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Let's say it's the week of Thanksgiving and you just bought a 20-pound fresh turkey for say $3 a pound, so you paid $60 total.

You and your family then get invited to somebody else's house for Thanksgiving and they already have a turkey. So I offer to take the turkey off your hands, promising to buy you another 20-lb turkey for your Christmas dinner. I then quickly turn around and sell that turkey to my sister-in-law for the $60.

Four weeks later, a 20-pound turkey can be had for $2.50 a pound - $50 total. So I just replaced the turkey I borrowed for a $10 profit.

But let's say that fresh turkeys become scarce and the price on them jumps to $5 a pound. Now I have to pay $100 to replace that turkey and I'm out $40.

Now consider a crazy scenario in which the price of a fresh turkey went to $500 a pound. That's kind of what happened to those hedge fund people who now find themselves in position of having to buy a whole bunch of overpriced fresh turkeys in order to return what they borrowed.

28 posted on 02/01/2021 4:58:36 AM PST by SamAdams76 (By stealing Trump's second term, the Left gets Trump for 8 more years instead of just four.)
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To: central_va; Gamecock; SaveFerris; PROCON; Rebelbase
The problem is the brokerage house only pretends to have the stock in inventory to โ€œloanโ€ the short seller. It is fraud all the way around.

Don't get George started on the big brokerage houses.


29 posted on 02/01/2021 4:59:58 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: nevergore

Yawn. One day does make a trade. On any given day you could buy some weekly option and be up or down 100% in an an hour. It’s not till you close out the trade that you know what the final score is.


30 posted on 02/01/2021 5:00:52 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

“You have to return those stocks within a month”

Are you sure about the month? I’ve done shorts, but don’t remember having to buy-to-cover for much longer than a month. I do get it with margin calls, and having to pump money in if you’re losing your shirt.

On the other hand my stocks were drifting down after I shorted them, and then they crashed (they were Financials going into 2008), so I was always positive.


31 posted on 02/01/2021 5:03:33 AM PST by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Explain it to like you are 5? Ok.

Here is a Tonga dump truck.

Go outside and play while the adults talk.

Would you like to pick a better age of wisdom and maturity?


32 posted on 02/01/2021 5:03:47 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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if you seen the charts (don’t see them now) you can see two large buys a period of time apart. in short sales you have I think three months to buy the stock that you sold.


33 posted on 02/01/2021 5:04:16 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Watch Rossmann stuff on the tubes. He covers this very well. Also a great apple repair channel.
34 posted on 02/01/2021 5:04:50 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Larry Lucido

Yep, in this case the problem is they were playing fast and loose and shorted 140% of the stock. This is why the price is likely to rise a lot when hedge short sellers have to buy sell and borrow and buy and sell the stock again to make up the shorts.


35 posted on 02/01/2021 5:05:00 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Joe 6-pack

Ben Shapiro Is a controlled-opposition tool of the Deep State paid off by Hedge Fund managers everywhere.

Never trusted that Never Trumper puke.


36 posted on 02/01/2021 5:05:31 AM PST by romanesq (TRUSTY THE PLAN! So ChiCom Joe is the Plan? Que magnificent! /s ๐Ÿ‘น.)
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To: SamAdams76

Yeah, but with the time value of money, and factoring in a high discount rate, a month later your loss may only be $420.00 or so.

Or if they soy crop is good, just buy them a tofurky. Maybe they won’t notice.


37 posted on 02/01/2021 5:05:31 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Bayard

Shorting will only drive down they price in the very short term. If it’s a good company the buyers will immediately jump on the lower price and bid it back up.

Overvalued - sellers sell, undervalued - buyers buy.


38 posted on 02/01/2021 5:07:31 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: BiglyCommentary

I wasn’t referring to a single trade but the silver commodity as a whole......
Thanks for the lecture...../s


39 posted on 02/01/2021 5:09:06 AM PST by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

GME was a one trick pony. They about to find out that the silver market is a totally different animal.


40 posted on 02/01/2021 5:09:53 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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