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Saab A-36: A Supersonic Nuclear Bomber For A Russia War
19FortyFive ^ | 1/18/2021 | Peter Suicu

Posted on 01/18/2021 7:46:09 AM PST by Onthebrink

During the 1950s Sweden may have maintained a policy of neutrality, yet it still sought to develop a rather well-stocked arsenal of domestically-produced military hardware.

From 1952-57 the Scandinavian nation even conducted a feasibility study to develop a delta-wing supersonic bomber that would have a nuclear strike capability.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: aerospace; blogpimp; history; military; noob; onthebrink; petersuicu; usmilitary; war

1 posted on 01/18/2021 7:46:10 AM PST by Onthebrink
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2 posted on 01/18/2021 8:10:50 AM PST by null and void (Trump is just the appetizer, We the People are the main course.)
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To: Onthebrink

The Swedes sure made some bad ass looking aircraft.

The artist concept in the article is no exception.

The model pictured...meh.


3 posted on 01/18/2021 8:14:38 AM PST by Jotmo (Whoever said, "The pen is mightier than the sword." has clearly never been stabbed to death.)
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Definitely. Really good designs that were different from what others countries in the West (and East) were making. I remember as a child in Kenya marveling over pictures of the Viggen and Draken (unfortunately that old school very British education is rare to find without heavy expenditure of coin). Those two keys looked unlike anything else ...definitely not like the Northrop F-5s Kenya had (and ironically, still has).

The modern Gripen is also a very good airplane (it punches far above its weight, especially the E version with an AESA radar), but it’s looks are far more conventional (like the smaller cousin of the Rafale or Eurofighter ...not the same look, but much closer to its European peers than the Viggen and Draken used to have).

The Swedes also have some very interesting stealth corvettes shepherding their waters, and talking about real stealth have some interest diesel-electric submarines that really punch above their weight.

I didn’t know about the A-36, but it is definitely a gem from the old-school Swede design.

Beautiful!

4 posted on 01/18/2021 8:28:17 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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Those two keys = those two airframes


5 posted on 01/18/2021 8:29:24 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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I didn’t know about the A-36, but it is definitely a gem from the old-school Swede design. Beautiful!

That design isn't practical, especially for a combat aircraft.

Lose one engine and the aircraft will immediately go into an unrecoverable flat spin due to the asymmetrical thrust.

The F-14 Tomcat was bad enough, this Saab design would be ten times worse.

6 posted on 01/18/2021 8:46:17 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Onthebrink

You need nuclear weapons for that to work.


7 posted on 01/18/2021 9:08:56 AM PST by Kozak (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: null and void

Those pictures remind me of when I used to build models of jet planes.
I might try doing it again someday.


8 posted on 01/18/2021 9:11:59 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Only a moronic, suicidal group would try a Great Purge 2021 on an armed American. We're ready!)
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To: Onthebrink

Not as cool as a British Vulcan bomber.


9 posted on 01/18/2021 9:16:44 AM PST by libertylover (Remember: Democrats hated Lincoln and Deep State hated Jesus too.)
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Not as cool as a British Vulcan bomber.

Visually pleasing, but no so good after it disintegrated making a pass over an airshow.

10 posted on 01/18/2021 10:43:53 AM PST by Myrddin
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Looks like there were several crashes but they kept flying them until 1984.

I was stationed in England from 1973-1976 and saw one do a flyover with the bomb bay doors open at an airshow and that was really cool, but now I don’t see why.

During that period I went to a bombing range as a guest and a Vulcan flew over and dropped some practice bombs. The controller said he had some guests and asked it he would do a slow flyover with the bomb bay doors open, but, alas, the Vulcan said he was low on fuel and couldn’t do it.


11 posted on 01/18/2021 11:28:48 AM PST by libertylover (This is not your Founding Fathers' United States of America.)
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To: Yo-Yo

It does have this thing called a rudder.


12 posted on 01/18/2021 11:47:15 AM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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It does have this thing called a rudder.

Yup, that's the problem. It has "a" rudder. As in just one rudder. And not a very large surface area, judging by the orange painted area. (The rudder is the part that moves. The stationary part is the vertical stabilizer.)

The SR-71, which has the same issue with a very large off-axis thrust line, had twin vertical stabilizers that were fully articulated in order to provide enough rudder authority to counter the offset thrust from a single engine.


13 posted on 01/18/2021 12:06:26 PM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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How about Hoovers?


14 posted on 01/18/2021 2:52:31 PM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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How about Hoovers?

The Viking's engines are not as powerful as a fighter's, so the offset thrust isn't as great.

And if you were indeed a former CH-46 flyer, then you may have seen them up close. Ever notice how tall the S-3's tail is? (So tall that it folds.) That's for a reason.

And the vertical stabilizer is fully at the rear of the aircraft for a longer control moment. Notice that the A-36 artist's rendering has the single vertical stabilizer about a quarter of the way from the tail, closer to the CG.


15 posted on 01/18/2021 3:36:15 PM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: phormer phrog phlyer
s-3 Viking wings folded:


16 posted on 01/18/2021 3:39:53 PM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Thanks for all of your posts, I understand what you are saying. Most recent fighter aircraft have twin vertical stabilizers/rudders. The Tornado has a single one which is pretty big and it’s engines are relatively close together.

I concur, the Saab would be a handful at low speed in an asymmetrical situation.

May God bless.


17 posted on 01/18/2021 4:10:58 PM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: RandallFlagg
Built one on college just for fun. Mentioned to the guys I was working with and they all reacted the same way.....gotta build one too.

It is a good reminder of a simpler time when I could cut grass for about $2 a yard, buy a model ship or plane, paint and glue and have hours of fun.

18 posted on 01/18/2021 5:47:32 PM PST by ealgeone
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