Posted on 12/24/2020 11:40:47 AM PST by CheshireTheCat
A study published this month in the American Medical Association's JAMA Network Open journal has offered further evidence that asymptomatic spread of COVID-19 may be significantly lower than previously thought.
Fears of COVID-19 spreading asymptomatically have persisted since shortly after the beginning of the pandemic. Many public health authorities in the United States and elsewhere initially argued that only those individuals with symptoms of COVID-19 should take precautions such as wearing masks and staying at home.
But fears that the virus may be spread to a significant degree by asymptomatic carriers soon led government leaders to issue broad and lengthy stay-at-home orders and mask mandates out of concerns that anyone could be a silent spreader.
"[A]symptomatic individuals may be carriers of the COVID-19 virus and may unknowingly spread the virus to other individuals in close proximity," read a characteristic mask mandate by Delaware Gov. John Carney in late April, one of many issued in the spring in response to fears of asymptomatic spread.....
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Very little doubt that asymptomatic transmissions is very rare which raises doubts about our CV mitigation protocols.
That said, don’t expect anything to change. Too many politicians are in too deep on those protocols. No one they can say “Oopps, too bad we ruined the economy.” Also, too many people are too afraid of the virus to let the politicians make significant changes. I don’t know how many times I’ve been told that “If it saves just one life, it will be worth it.”
If that is true (which I largely believe), then how in the world are people catching it? Not a single person I know has a clue about where and how they caught it. Every one of them denies ever being close to a sick person.
Maybe there IS a big, invisible poisonous COVID gas cloud all around us.
“Asymptomatic” = False-Positive
I cringe when I hear people saying this... and, that is all too often. It's so ridiculous, it's hard to know the best way to combat it. How do you reason with people this ignorant?
“Asymptomatic spread” is a damnable lie that’s been used from the very start of this scamdemic to control the people.
I’ve seen two cases this week.
Not sure it’s rare.
ProtectOurFreedom wrote: “If that is true (which I largely believe), then how in the world are people catching it? Not a single person I know has a clue about where and how they caught it. Every one of them denies ever being close to a sick person.”
There’s no way an individual can know if a person they encounter has the virus. Don’t mistake asymptomatic with no-symptomatic. Not everyone who has the virus is confined to a hospital. Many will have such mild symptoms they don’t even know they do have the virus. Such people aren’t asymptomatic, they’re mildly symptomatic.
Approximately 90% of people under 80 who test positive have no symptoms are such slight symptoms that they do not realize that they are ill. But you are exactly correct.
Jim Noble wrote: “I’ve seen two cases this week. Not sure it’s rare.”
The studies seem to indicate it’s much rarer than some would have us believe. Personally, I think the emphasis on asymptomatic spreading is done in the interest of “an abundance of caution”, it’s the safest path. I’ve encountered too many who believe no price is too much to pay to save a life. Typical comment - we can always revive the economy, but we can revive the dead.
Well, well....
Honestly, that sounds like a distinction without a difference.
But a deadened economy is going to kill people. It is already killing people in developed countries whose supplies routes for medicines for other diseases has been affected.
And these people think a deadened economy isn’t going to impact tax revenue which isn’t going to impact Medicare and Medicaid and isn’t going to lead to rationing?
False positive. Supposedly the nostril swab test will check for particles of dead or alive virus. Virus: common cold or Covid-29 or any other virus. The test is basically a fraud. 99.9 survival rate of those who are infected. Most of the positive individuals do not have Covid-19.
Are you prescribing Ivermectin at first signs of symptoms?
I trotted off to get my horse paste from the farm Store store because I don’t trust that I will be able to get a prescription. Never had been in one. Was shocked at how busy it was..I guess people were shopping for gifts.
They had the horse paste under lock and key. There were at least two signs on the glass of warnings of don’t use this in humans. I asked the guy why it was under lock and key..surely it wasnt a high theft item. He said it was... said people use it for their dogs.
Maybe by the time I get COVID they will know Ivermectin either A) - works so I can get a script or B) have realized it doesn’t do any good so I dont have to use horse paste like an idiot.
Btw, there was a a refrigerator by the horse paste with various vaccines. I asked if they required scripts. He said no. A bordetella shot for dogs was only 9.99. This would be a great alternative to the Vet if you could give your dog a shot. You would think people would steal expensive vaccines and not horse paste...but nope..it’s not under lock and key like the $2.99 horse paste.
“Personally, I think the emphasis on asymptomatic spreading is done in the interest of “an abundance of caution”, it’s the safest path. I’ve encountered too many who believe no price is too much to pay to save a life.”
Well, you make a good point.
The balance between halting spread of SARS CoV 2 and destroying people’s livelihoods is, at its base, a political decison, not a scientific one.
Our public health officials have had effectively zero guidance from their political leadership in most states.
And, most “pro-lockdown” governors have been too chicken to do enough to stop spread, just enough to hurt businesses and piss people off.
It’s a big fat mess, and from what I know of the incoming team (which is more than most), it’s going to get a lot worse after January 20.
And false negatives. There has been nothing about this Virus that has been consistent. IF the vaccines work, which we should know in a couple weeks, than give them to the health workers and the aged first. Other than that, let it runs it's course and stopped killing American livelihoods and businesses. This is not Small-pox, Polio or Ebola.
And I said on another thread, my DIL now has it at age 35 and is recovering with no special therapeutics. Yes, she got two positives.
Jim Noble wrote: “The balance between halting spread of SARS CoV 2 and destroying people’s livelihoods is, at its base, a political decison, not a scientific one.”
Fauci has said as much, that he’s not qualified to make decisions involving economics.
Jim Noble wrote: “It’s a big fat mess, and from what I know of the incoming team (which is more than most), it’s going to get a lot worse after January 20.”
I’m sure you’re correct. Biden can kiss my ass if he thinks I’ll be wearing a mask anytime I go outdoors for 100 days. I played gold a few days ago. I played by myself and there wasn’t another player within 150 yards. Why wear a mask?
No.
I used a lot of hydroxychloroquine, and I did it for longer than most. The ivermectin story is identical in every respect (and I do use it for systemic worm infections, and I therefore know how toxic it can be).
We do need early treatment. The problem is, how many do you need to treat to prevent one bad outcome, and how do you know the treatment is effective? So many people here say the survival rate is 99.9% (false), but if that were true, a trial to show difference between treatment and placebo would need tens of thousands of subjects, AND would have to deal with fervent belief in the effectiveness of the study drug.
Look at HCQ - that story is just about over, but it was almost impossible to study properly in March and April because of the fact that every person in the position to study it had a fixed belief about the answer.
We have a good supply of ivermectin, and I don't object to docs who want to use it - but I do not, to answer your question, prescribe it myself for this indication.
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