Posted on 10/10/2020 5:56:45 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
Last week, when President Donald Trump reported his COVID-19 diagnosis and was subsequently hospitalized, White House Physician and Navy physician Sean Conley, DO, provided the press with updates on the president’s illness and treatment. The ensuing media spotlight on Dr. Conley resulted in unfortunate mischaracterizations of DOs that appeared, among other outlets, on CNN and MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Show.
Maddow questioned why President Trump’s care is overseen by an “osteopath” rather than an infectious disease specialist or an internist. CNN pundit Gloria Borger implied that, as an “osteopath,” Dr. Conley is not an “actual doctor.”
To set the record straight, the AOA deployed an aggressive communications response aimed at correcting inaccuracies in the media and combatting the spread of misinformation on social media by challenging those who made false statements about the profession to #GetItRight....
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Thanks. I loathe both CNN and MSNBC for the constant lies and propaganda.
They are always on the wrong side of things.
An Air Force D.O. saved my life after a night of Army MD’s trying to kill me
My Better Half and I both use a DO. Best medical care EVAH!
We also regularly use Chiropractic care for stenosis and other disc issues.
If it works for you, use it.
Take charge of your body and mind.
Yeast, sugar, high fructose corn syrup, all non-citrus fruits, corn, milk, and cheese.
I ate a fairly healthy diet before my diagnosis, but was shocked by how stripping certain items out of my diet and giving my system a chance to reset completely restored my health. I was on the candida diet for 3 months.
Best advice I ever got from a doctor.
Now, if I decide to cheat (I love baking with the kids and garlic cheese bread), I know not to overload my system.
Would you expect something intelligent to come out of the mouth of loser Madcow?
no. MD and DO school have nothing to do with each other
Yes, I have been to a chiropractor.
As I stated to a different poster on this thread, I am not knocking midwives or chiropractors. I am pointing out the inconsistency and hypocrisy of people like Maddow and other libs who knock osteopaths but likely go to chiropractors and advocate for the use of midwives. They very well can’t regard two types of practicioners who lack the precious MD as acceptable for meeting their health care needs and knock a third type.
If you had read my post #22 you would have understood that.
Ah, mkay. The wording of the post (#5) comes across as you associating them as ‘quacks’.
But no, I did not see post #22. If a thread has more than ten or so posts, I skim through them and look more at the longer substantive ones, half-skip the 90% that are just one-liners.
MD is not a prerequisite for DO
Careful to get your facts correct before casting insults
DOs standards do not exceed MD. A DO takes osteopathic manipulation. They are generally best suited for primary care according to their philosophy. It is a little disingenuous when one turns specialist. However I work with many fine DOs and have no problem with them. But they do not have higher standards than MDs
The old joke is what you call someone who didn’t get into medical school? DO!
But I am satisfied they sir for the same exams same boards same everything. So I consider them my equal. But not my superior.
Just so you know DOs are not MDs plus.
They have an osteopathic philosophy. An MD has an allopathic philosophy. That’s the difference.
Midwifery is not a medical degree It is a nursing degree. They do not have the same rights and privileges as a medical degree.
Whether or NOT that a DO uses manipulation has a lot to do with what sort of practice that he/she has.
A friend of mine in DC has an osteopathic medical practice that is limited to Sports Injuries & (sometimes) remediation/rehabilitation of victim’s injuries from motor vehicle wrecks.
(About 70-80% of his practice is treating NFL players from 3-4 teams for rehabilitation of their football injuries. - To quote one of the Baltimore Ravens coaches, “Dr. D__________ can generally get our players back onto the field & able to play full-speed in games, quickly. I cannot say enough about the excellent quality of his restorative regimes.”)
Btw, my old friend is also a COL/06 of the Army Medical Corps, USAR.
Yours, TMN78247
All I know about osteopaths is that one of them treated my severely injured wife with the utmost top-of-the-line medical care, after I tossed out an idiot MD, who couldn’t have cared less. More power to them.
CNN pundit Gloria Borger implied that, as an “osteopath,” Dr. Conley is not an “actual doctor.”
CNN and MSNBC? Simultaneously? Partisasn stooges gotta/gonna shill.
Partisan Media Shills update.
Some schools are better than others and some doctors are too.
Just a reminder that the Dems do not care who they destroy to gain power.
You both are allopaths (and likely bristle at the word?). I’ve known MDs who do and also known MDs who lean toward holistic approaches.
I speak as a patient. Specifically, a rural patient and even more granularly, a rural patient with a history of practicing anatomically-based Western soft-tissue massage.
While most DOs today no longer have the time to use manipulative techniques and are willing to leave them to chiros, competent massage therapists and PTs, it has always been a plus to me and my family that they actually have some respect for and understanding of the use of musculo-skeletal approaches.
So, to me and mine, a (usually older/private practice)physician with a DO is familiar and we consider the added approach a plus.
I have retired MDs in the family, as well as retired APRNs. At one time, the former looked down on the latter. Aside from surgery and perhaps various certifications in techniques requiring advanced trainings, they not only seem to a patient to do a lot of the same actual work, the differences often boil down (to the end user) to ones of approach and accessibility.
Once upon a time, my go-to *doc* was a former Army nurse, later in charge of a rural ER, who went on to get her APRN and today teaches. I’d take _her_ evaluation of someone for their surgical skills over the surgeon’s wall of degrees, or at least, factor her opinion in with the rest of the certifications. She had experience in field hospital work and, in my local hospital, had worked with all the physicians and surgeons.
I understand the differences, including the prestige of attending a medical school vs. an osteopathic school. I have witnessed the arguments. I have worked under referral with some of each. Drugs and surgery are not all there is in medicine and since DOs can utilize, as well as employ an understanding of manipulation techniques, including that of soft tissue, even if they don’t use them themselves, that, to me as a patient, is a plus. I appreciate someone who not only considers supplements, but has a more than basic understanding their uses. I don’t personally utilize joint manipulations as a patient and have a distrust of some of them, but there are chiros who get great outcomes. I’ve also been less than impressed with MDs who dismiss PTs with “Do whatever it is you do down there[in that department].”, especially when the PT in question has a PhD and gets great outcomes even when they cannot prescribe, perform surgery or are required to work within the specific constraints prescribed by the MDs. Sometimes, it just comes down to coding and insurance requirements.
No aspersions on either of you, your training or your qualifications. Every provider is subject to the oversight of the institution, the insurance companies, the codes, and what looks to the patient like plain old bureaucratic hierarchies. Just my personal observations and experiences. I respect what it takes to each job in a medical practice. Given a choice of provider, I’d be biased to consider a DO first.
YYMV.
No offense taken and that is the beauty of the free market. However. We are not both allopathic. An osteopath is an osteopath. It’s the name of their philosophy.
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