Posted on 08/01/2020 7:38:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
In case you hadnt heard, Sweden is one of the very few western nations that didnt respond to COVID-19 by imposing any lockdowns.
Given the obvious hardship, misery, and death lockdowns bring, Swedens leaders decided it made more sense to just isolate the sick and elderly. They let the infection burn through the strong and healthy members of their population at its normal rate instead of trying to slow it down and thereby delaying herd immunity.
Way back in May, I pointed out that, if lockdowns were effective, Swedens neighbors would see a dramatic increase in cases after opening back up.
Lockdowns, at best, only slow down the rate of infection. They dont reduce the number required to reach herd immunity and, hence, only serve to increase the amount of time the virus lingers.
The point of locking down is to make sure hospitals dont get overrun by a surge of new cases on any given day, not to decrease the number of people ultimately infected.
(Since neither Sweden nor U.S hospitals were ever in danger of being overrun, we know lockdowns accomplished nothing without even looking at the numbers. But the amount of misinformation about Sweden being bandied about makes it worth doing anyway.)
In fact, if a nation that went into lockdown doesnt experience a dramatic increase in cases after opening back up, that means shutting down failed to do what it was supposed to and the virus continued to spread at its normal rate.
The upshot is that it made no sense to compare Swedens numbers to their neighbors until the virus ran its course.
As my colleague Brandon Morse reported Friday, it looks like bothering to read what the experts proposing lockdowns actually said they were supposed to accomplish may have paid off.
Swedens Herd Immunity Pays Off, Sees Sharp Decline In COVID Cases While the Rest of Us Cower
Europe is seeing another surge in Coronavirus cases with the exception of Sweden who is still seeing a marked decline since June.
But a Twitter researcher who goes by the name El Gato Malo (The Bad Cat) did a thread thats essential reading for anyone who wants to understand whether Sweden made the right choice.
It turns out their COVID numbers are incredibly good even independently of the fact that they seem to be avoiding the recent spike in cases that lockdown nations are experiencing.
Moreover, there are differences in the criteria for counting COVID-19 deaths which cast a very different light on some of the comparisons being made.
To start by considering Swedens numbers in isolation, their COVID fatalities were almost entirely restricted to the elderly. 88% were over 70 and 75% were in nursing homes or elder care. Only 4.5% of fatalities were under 60.
Sweden had almost no deaths among the young
88% were over 70 years old and 75% in nursing homes or elder care.
even if lockdown had been 100% effective in stopping every death under 60, that would have been 4.5% of deaths.
so give it a rest guys. pic.twitter.com/zFIHqi3nPl
el gato malo (@boriquagato) July 21, 2020
Sweden had less than 500 reported COVID fatalities under 70, just 12% of the total.
Before the even one death is too many crowd starts accusing me of being a heartless monster, they might want to take a look in the mirror.
A recent report from the British government estimates that in just a single year lockdowns may cause 200,000 deaths from depriving people of medical care for ailments other than COVID-19 alone.
Britain has around 6 times Swedens population. But even dividing the British number by 20 gives you 10,000 deaths.
Thats 20 times those 500 people under the age of 70 that Sweden reported as succumbing to COVID-19 and almost twice their total for all ages.
Study by British gov. says lockdown may kill 200,000 brits.
Turns out other things kill people besides C-19. Crazy, huh?https://t.co/OiTFP03ibp pic.twitter.com/NmxFD4dXm1 Michael Thau (@MichaelThau) August 1, 2020
Moreover, its very unlikely that the real death toll in Sweden is anywhere close to the number theyre reporting. Like the U.S., Swedens criteria for counting COVID-19 deaths are so loose that theyre bound to be including a lot of people who wouldve died regardless of the virus.
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Sweden systematically checks the list of people who have tested positive for the virus against the population register. Every time the government discovers that someone who had the virus has died, that person is registered as a COVID-19 death if it happened within 30 days of the diagnosis.
In Sweden, It doesnt matter what they died of could be a heart attack, cancer or even a car accident.
Sweden just counts cov deaths extremely inclusively.
this had led to very high numbers reported especially as covid is an opportunistic infection that moves in when youre already sick. pic.twitter.com/5opRudlNIX
el gato malo (@boriquagato) July 21, 2020
People keep contrasting Swedens COVID fatality numbers with Norways.
Given that Swedens reported deaths from the virus likely dwarf the number of citizens they would have killed with a lockdown, such comparisons are just scary-sounding panic-porn that have no bearing on the wisdom of Swedens decision.
But as Norberg also pointed out to the apparently deaf ears of all those pushing the Norway comparison anyway:
Even in a culturally and geographically similar country like Norwaycelebrated for its low death ratethey do things differently. The Norwegians only count something as a COVID-19 death if a doctor concludes that someone was killed by the disease and decides to report it to the countrys public health authority.
Theres a general lesson here. The data were getting is pretty much all garbage considered on its own and is worse than garbage when used for comparative purposes. The only thing that matters in evaluating whether lockdowns are worth their tremendous death toll is how many people would still be alive if not for contracting COVID-19.
And absolutely no one seems to have any interest in even figuring that out, let alone in telling us.
But, speaking of Norway, instead of comparing stats compiled using completely different criteria, maybe we should listen to what the Norwegians are saying. The head of their version of Americas CDC has made a startling admission:
Our assessment now .is that we could possibly have achieved the same effects and avoided some of the unfortunate impacts by not locking down, but by instead keeping open but with infection control measures,
norway's director of the institute of public health (similar to US CDC) is now saying that lockdowns were unnecessary.
this is an amazingly honest about-face and warrants much respect.
will other health agencies be so honorable w/ their self-assessment?https://t.co/PTEWwUK5Mb
el gato malo (@boriquagato) May 26, 2020
Hearing a director of some government agency defend one of their policies doesnt mean a whole lot. Neither bureaucrats nor anyone else for that matter are likely to admit theyve made a terrible mistake. But when thats exactly what theyre doing, people ought to listen. And Camille Stoltenberg deserves to be commended in the highest possible terms for doing so.
Finally, its kind of hard to argue that COVID-19 has been some kind of a disaster for the Swedes given that theyve actually had fewer overall fatalities than normal.
but overall all cause deaths this flu season are LOW in sweden, not high.
a plague and policy response so bad that were 3.6% below normal per capita deaths is not much of a scare story, is it?https://t.co/ZjlgX3sDLV
el gato malo (@boriquagato) July 21, 2020
So all those Covidian Cult members celebrating the deadly plague their god brought down on Sweden for not heeding cult rituals by killing thousands of Swedes with a sacrificial lockdown couldnt be more off base.
Might be time to start looking for a new religion.
Or better yet, they could start following the science.
that sounds like magical thinking.
their systems was never even stressed, much less overwhelmed.
yet those of lockdown countries were.
it has nothing to do with policy.
everyone got the same R curve no matter what they did.
flatten the curve does not work. pic.twitter.com/FbX9bxK9Qp
el gato malo (@boriquagato) July 22, 2020
Brazil and India have lots of sun, so lots of vitamin d naturally produced. Yet they have covid deaths
True. Swedish obesity rate is 19%. In the USA it is 36%
German deaths per million is 110. Portugal 140. Poland 44.
“We should have sheltered those at risk. For the rest of us it should have been business as usual.”
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Needed to take out Trump. That wouldn’t have helped.
Brazil and India also have lots of people deficient in vitamin D.
Don’t understand?
“Needed to take out Trump. That wouldnt have helped.”
Finally, its kind of hard to argue that COVID-19 has been some kind of a disaster for the Swedes given that theyve actually had fewer overall fatalities than normal.
Thats the important bit.
What I meant was that there was no real goal to prevent the sinking of our economy. The goal from the beginning was to hurt Trump at all possible costs (Needed to take out Trump). To the left/media/Dims/etc., lessening the tragic effects of Covid-19 was not on their agenda. (For them) The more pain the better.(For them) Less pain “Wouldn’t have helped”.
Sweden has a lot going for it, but their economy is somewhat suffering too; down 6% GDP this last quarter.
RE: but their economy is somewhat suffering too; down 6% GDP this last quarter.
Compare this to our horrible economy during the second quarter, which sank 33%!
I don’t understand that - those are sunny countries.
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